The Jews

[DensterNY]

Whenever you get an idea that you'd like to implement into a Total War game don't you wish that CA would open up their source code and allow people to tinker beyond what we've done with Modding. Of course I don't mean to take away anything from the phenomenal job that the modders have done but I think we'd all like to change the game engine a little.

Personally, I wouldn't mind having some of the uglier sides of history in the game for the sake of realism so that you get a more grounded sense of running an empire. This of course includes rape, expulsion, scorch and burn tactics, impaling and crucification which were used extensively to different ends in the Medieval age.

[Samurai Waki]

I personally dislike the Expell The Jews! or Invite the Jews! Option in MTW II Total War. However, I think that countries that have a more moderate view on religion, especially with an emphasis on banks or merchants should have a higher chance of attracting a Jewish Population. Once a certain percentage of Jews live in a province, lets say 5% You would unlock an option to build a synagogue, which would in fact attract more Jewish Immigrants to your country, and perhaps lower Jewish Populations in other areas without a synagogue. Of course this is all relative, because not all Jews were great bankers and merchants, just like not all Muslims are zealots. However, the option of being more religiously moderate would have some advantages and some drawbacks, the advantages being that in such a society people were freer, socially and politically, and people had a better chance of having an education, thus VIPs from sed region would be more likely to have increased Acumen and Diplomacy. On the other hand, a conquering faction that was too moderate would face difficulties, such as a Catholic Faction would have a lower relationship with the pope, and more likely candidate for excommunication, Once a region is conquered, it's subjects will be free to practice their own religion, have a MUCH reduced conversion rate to your state religion, and a higher dissent rate, which would result in a lowered income from taxes from the region, as Fanatics are much less likely to deal with those peace loving Christians, than to just smuggle their goods, and keep whatever they make to themselves. Also, if a region has a high percentage of muslims and Christians, the likely hood of the two peoples merging into fighting regiments together would be highly unlikely, so if a region were to be split equally between Christian and Muslim, some regiments would be made up of entirely Christian Men, and other regiments made up completely of muslims. And if the muslim population doesn't respect your rulership, and your a christian king, chances are they won't take up your call to arms.

[Cebei]

Well, then probably Ottomans will win?

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

If the game is going to be historical as possible you should be able to expel the jews from your lands but maybe at huge decrease in your annual income. The plus for the Jewish communties say are trade bonus's, increased revenue but it comesd at a cost in morale and province happiness particulary in areas such as Iberia and Northern Europe.

[Horatius]

So Blind King you agree with my suggestion then right?

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

So Blind King you agree with my suggestion then right?

Yes mate

[sunsmountain]

My idea is simple.

Not to mention anti-semitic.

So what do you think, with the anti-semite trait added will this suggestion be more acceptable?

No, trying to hide a judgement (jews are somehow different, which, of course, they are not) behind a positive judgement still confirms the first judgement. Of course, during Medieval times, the people made that judgement against jews. Hitler found plenty of "references" back to his ideology, in particular those from medieval times.

I don't like making a judgement I don't want to make. Besides, you may be living in a dream world if you ignore the current political climate of the world. What we don't need is another polarizing judgement against people who are essentially our brothers. If we don't treat jews as normal people, they will remind themselves of the suppression they faced in the past, and reinforce it in the present, by suppressing the palestinians, lebanese, etc...

Let us aim for peace, despite our gaming love for war.