The Jews

**Cebei** · 07-31-2006, 15:41

Well, then probably Ottomans will win?

**The Blind King of Bohemia** · 07-31-2006, 16:24

If the game is going to be historical as possible you should be able to expel the jews from your lands but maybe at huge decrease in your annual income. The plus for the Jewish communties say are trade bonus's, increased revenue but it comesd at a cost in morale and province happiness particulary in areas such as Iberia and Northern Europe.

**Horatius** · 07-31-2006, 17:49

So Blind King you agree with my suggestion then right?

**The Blind King of Bohemia** · 07-31-2006, 18:22

Originally Posted by Horatius

So Blind King you agree with my suggestion then right?

Yes mate

**sunsmountain** · 07-31-2006, 18:47

My idea is simple.

Not to mention anti-semitic.

So what do you think, with the anti-semite trait added will this suggestion be more acceptable?

No, trying to hide a judgement (jews are somehow different, which, of course, they are not) behind a positive judgement still confirms the first judgement. Of course, during Medieval times, the people made that judgement against jews. Hitler found plenty of "references" back to his ideology, in particular those from medieval times.

I don't like making a judgement I don't want to make. Besides, you may be living in a dream world if you ignore the current political climate of the world. What we don't need is another polarizing judgement against people who are essentially our brothers. If we don't treat jews as normal people, they will remind themselves of the suppression they faced in the past, and reinforce it in the present, by suppressing the palestinians, lebanese, etc...

Let us aim for peace, despite our gaming love for war.

**Horatius** · 07-31-2006, 19:31

Blind King I am glad you agree with me on this

sunsmountain what have I said that is anti-semitic?

**The Blind King of Bohemia** · 07-31-2006, 20:19

Originally Posted by sunsmountain

Not to mention anti-semitic.

No, trying to hide a judgement (jews are somehow different, which, of course, they are not) behind a positive judgement still confirms the first judgement. Of course, during Medieval times, the people made that judgement against jews. Hitler found plenty of "references" back to his ideology, in particular those from medieval times.

I don't like making a judgement I don't want to make. Besides, you may be living in a dream world if you ignore the current political climate of the world. What we don't need is another polarizing judgement against people who are essentially our brothers. If we don't treat jews as normal people, they will remind themselves of the suppression they faced in the past, and reinforce it in the present, by suppressing the palestinians, lebanese, etc...

Let us aim for peace, despite our gaming love for war.

The guy isn't being anti semetic, just asking opinions on an idea for the game. The medieval period shouldn't be glossed over, it was a time of massacre, siege, battle, religious turmoil and crusade. I think the idea is fine, not anit anything in my opinion. It is after all a game, there is no need to bring modern problems into it.