The Jews

[sunsmountain]

My idea is simple.

Not to mention anti-semitic.

So what do you think, with the anti-semite trait added will this suggestion be more acceptable?

No, trying to hide a judgement (jews are somehow different, which, of course, they are not) behind a positive judgement still confirms the first judgement. Of course, during Medieval times, the people made that judgement against jews. Hitler found plenty of "references" back to his ideology, in particular those from medieval times.

I don't like making a judgement I don't want to make. Besides, you may be living in a dream world if you ignore the current political climate of the world. What we don't need is another polarizing judgement against people who are essentially our brothers. If we don't treat jews as normal people, they will remind themselves of the suppression they faced in the past, and reinforce it in the present, by suppressing the palestinians, lebanese, etc...

Let us aim for peace, despite our gaming love for war.

[Horatius]

Blind King I am glad you agree with me on this

sunsmountain what have I said that is anti-semitic?

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Not to mention anti-semitic.



No, trying to hide a judgement (jews are somehow different, which, of course, they are not) behind a positive judgement still confirms the first judgement. Of course, during Medieval times, the people made that judgement against jews. Hitler found plenty of "references" back to his ideology, in particular those from medieval times.

I don't like making a judgement I don't want to make. Besides, you may be living in a dream world if you ignore the current political climate of the world. What we don't need is another polarizing judgement against people who are essentially our brothers. If we don't treat jews as normal people, they will remind themselves of the suppression they faced in the past, and reinforce it in the present, by suppressing the palestinians, lebanese, etc...

Let us aim for peace, despite our gaming love for war.

The guy isn't being anti semetic, just asking opinions on an idea for the game. The medieval period shouldn't be glossed over, it was a time of massacre, siege, battle, religious turmoil and crusade. I think the idea is fine, not anit anything in my opinion. It is after all a game, there is no need to bring modern problems into it.

[Bar Kochba]

stop trying to bring politics into MTW2....

[sunsmountain]

The guy isn't being anti semetic, just asking opinions on an idea for the game.

I know, but that's not how jews will perceive it.

stop trying to bring politics into MTW2....

If you design stuff like this you are almost guaranteed to generate a political response. CA does not want that, and neither would you.

Having said all that, perhaps there is a possibility for the anti-semitic trait. I just wouldn't recommend implementing it... nor would I enjoy it.

[LeftEyeNine]

Let's try being less sensitive and friendly, lads.

[DensterNY]

Well, the history of mankind has never been a pretty one. Explusion, enslavement, genocide, conquest are large parts of our past. Whether we want this in our game is another question.

Another option which would be just as unpopular is enslavement not to speed up population growth but as a production bonus to areas receiving its benefits. Of course in our more civilized age we abhor this kind of abuse but it certainly was a reality of our past. Then again you could argue that every serf from that time period was just as easily a slave.