Thanxs guys for the quick and very knowledgable awnsers, and i was just kidding about the mtw2 being better then EB, u cant really say which one is better but i think EB will probably, even though outdated and outshined, still come out as the more dedicated, and more intricate game. Afterall, all those unique buldings, i cream my pants eveytime i think about them , plus of course the awsome portrayal of the British tribes!!