Cretan archers and rhodian slingers in EB?

**Avicenna** · 08-04-2006, 02:57

Originally Posted by Musopticon?

And archers have Teh Proton Missile!

I second that!

Anyway, after my experience in vanilla with slingers causing FF when behind friendly lines, I've just abandoned them. Archers are cheaper anyhow, and have nice hats.

**Musopticon?** · 08-04-2006, 08:01

Originally Posted by Tiberius

I second that!

Anyway, after my experience in vanilla with slingers causing FF when behind friendly lines, I've just abandoned them. Archers are cheaper anyhow, and have nice hats.

Seriously though, celtic archers and eastern archers are actually useful, but I don't understand why anyone would use hellenic toxotai. Well, if you just need firearrows, then I guess I see the point, but otherwise they're just cheap garrison troops and wall defenders.

**Trithemius** · 08-07-2006, 02:40

Originally Posted by Musopticon?

Seriously though, celtic archers and eastern archers are actually useful, but I don't understand why anyone would use hellenic toxotai. Well, if you just need firearrows, then I guess I see the point, but otherwise they're just cheap garrison troops and wall defenders.

That's why I build 'em! :)

**Musopticon?** · 08-07-2006, 11:29

I kinda self-defeated my argument there, didn't I?

**Conqueror** · 08-09-2006, 17:47

Any chance to hear what factions will be able to recruit these archer and slinger units? If say Carthaginians grab Crete can they recruit the archers with appropiate government type? Also will Makedonia have more cavalry units in 0.8? Right now they have only the expensive (and limited in recruitment areas) Thessalians and Hetairoi. Is there some reason why they can't recruit the basic Hippeis unit in hellenic lands?

**Fondor_Yards** · 08-09-2006, 18:00

From the Diadochoi preview. Also with macedonia money should be a problem, greece is very rich.
Thrakioi Prodromoi
http://www.krusader.be/eb/thrak-prodromoi.jpg

In the Thraikian and Makedonian armies, these medium cavalry are a common sight. The reason for this is that they are excellent medium cavalry, capable of skirmishing, charging, and fighting fairly well in melee. They are armored with good quality linen, bronze helms, and the distinctive Thraikian shields that mark their country of origin. They are an extremely versatile cavalry force that can be given the moniker ‘jack of all trades and master of none’. They are great all-round cavalry, but will not fare well against heavier cavalry or spear or pike armed infantry. They are drawn from the lower Thraikian nobility and many have settled in Makedonia, lured by land grants and higher pay.

Historically, Thraikian light cavalry was some of the best in the ancient world. They proved their worth in battle after battle, whether in Makedonian or Hellene service, or the service of their own kings. Their tactical versatility made them a light cavalry equivalent to the Romaioi legions, well able to perform any battle role and to adapt quickly to any circumstance.

**iberus_generalis** · 08-10-2006, 01:08

why ppl tend to choose between the two? my armies always have 3 units of slingers and 3 of archers...the best of both worlds..the overkill of slingers..the precision and fire arrows of archers...=) sometimes my infatary doesn't eve have to fight...cuz the enemy routs do to heavy casualties...=)