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    Default Re: RTW Campaign with BI exe - a few questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran
    What´s the fake phalanx? Do you mean the short_pike EDU entry? If you use that, the unit with it will basically act like a phalanx unit with short spears. What´s special about it is the fact that this also works without the unit being phalanx-capable (no phalanx entry in the formatons line), but it can run while in "pseudo-phalanx" (the formation looks the same), but it can not go off phalanx mode as a "regular" phalanx could. Another thing about the fake phalanx (if I may borrow that term) is that it doesn´t use secondary weapons (or if the unit has a secondary weapon it will only use that, and never the phalanx spears).
    Yes, that sounds like what I am talking about. Sorry about my, erm, odd term for it.

    It's a shame that units with a long pike cannot manoeuvre thus, and a real shame that such units only use the sword if equipped with a secondary weapon. Could one give them a spear as a secondary and not give them a primary? Or for that matter, give them a spear for both primary and secondary, each with the same stats?

    Thanks for your info anyway, Ciaran.

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    Default Re: RTW Campaign with BI exe - a few questions

    And you play as a roman faction or not ??
    Yes, of course, the Julii, to be precise. It wouldn´t make much sense trying to test it with a non-roman faction, now would it?

    It's a shame that units with a long pike cannot manoeuvre thus, and a real shame that such units only use the sword if equipped with a secondary weapon. Could one give them a spear as a secondary and not give them a primary? Or for that matter, give them a spear for both primary and secondary, each with the same stats?
    I´m not quite sure I get what you want. Do you want to make a phalanx unit use its sword? Nothing simpler than that, switch off phalanx mode and give them an order to attack, they´ll use swords automatically. Or do you not want them to use any swords at all? That´s more difficult. You could give them the same stats for both primary and secondary weapons, of course, and change the secondary weapon skeleton in model_battle to a spearman one, but the unit will keep its sword showing (that´s because the sword is part of the .cas models, the "physical" models, so to speak). To make them show to use spears (for the stats it doesn´t matter, you can basically edit them to anything; I´m purely refering to what´s showing on-screen) you´d have to edit the actual cas model, remove the sword and give them a spear as secondary weapon.
    Now, things get a bit more complicated when you figure in the phalanx ability. Those pikes the phalanx units carry in the game are not part of their .cas model (though the cas models do have spears on them, just remove the phalanx ability of, say the Hoplites in EDU and you´ll see it), but they come from the phalanx ability, adding that makes them use a seperate weapon model, the Hoplite_pike.cas.

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    Default Re: RTW Campaign with BI exe - a few questions

    Speed it it up ciaran. You dont need to invest so much time for it HERE:

    " to check this quickly begin a game as the julii put in some assasins and send them to kills senates generals. If they fails you will get normally be outlawed but this one doesnt functioning anymore . Only your popularity sink. So ok go one sink your popularity to the senate and when you have only one star there send a diplomat to a brutii or scipii city and bought a city from them. next turn you will became the mission from the senate to return the city back or you will be outlawed. When the misssion reached his last turn and you will press the end turn button you will got a ctd. ""

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    Default Re: RTW Campaign with BI exe - a few questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran
    I´m not quite sure I get what you want. Do you want to make a phalanx unit use its sword? Nothing simpler than that, switch off phalanx mode and give them an order to attack, they´ll use swords automatically. Or do you not want them to use any swords at all?
    Neither, mate! You said that "another thing about the fake phalanx .... is that it doesn´t use secondary weapons or if the unit has a secondary weapon it will only use that, and never the phalanx spears" That's why I wrote that it was "a real shame that such units (I meant the "fake phalanxes" - sorry, I was unclear there) only use the sword if equipped with a secondary weapon."

    Sorry for the crossed wires. I combined two thoughts rather clumsily in one sentence.

    I want long pike equipped units to be able to run in formation like the short pikes do in BI, but unfortunately they cannot - that's all. Thanks for your help anyway.
    Last edited by AmbrosiusAurelianus; 08-30-2006 at 11:45.

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    Sorry if this has been posted but can you get marian reforms running it through the BI exe? Wondering because the descr_strat of BI has these two lines.

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    And does this line mess up the senate?

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