Altering / Improving my Kings + Heirs

[Ironside]

Slight correction: generals that succesfull survive an inquisition trial will develop the "Born again" line of virtues that give increasing piety bonuses (i.e. it doesn't disappear), however they also stand a high risk of becomming a secret heretic or atheist. The next inquisition trail (provided they don't get burned) will usually reveal this vice, thus giving him a massive piety penalty. Use with caution.

Hmf, that's not a correction, that's adding information

Usually (always?) they start out with one of those lines (haven't seen heretic though) until it has reached thier final stages (Atheist -8!! piety, Born Again +6 piety -6 dread). If you continue after that, you'll have the other line starting, so you'll end up with born again atheists .
But, yeah if your general shows up a a secret Atheist after an inquisition, don't trial him again.

I made a "short" list above and only took short information on the V&V in there. Here's a quite comprehensive list of v&v BTW: Council Chambers a M:TW site

And only to but in some extra information, traits that often goes in the royal line and is inhieritable too.

Hard Sums
Natural Leader

Killer Instinct
Great Warrior

Chinless Wonder
Drinker
Secret Pride/Pride (is buggy, Pride got the v&v displayed for secret Pride and vice versa)

I suspect a few more but haven't checked them closely enough to confirm them. For example

Irritable
Strange
Secret Perversion
Materialist
Ambitious

Feel free to add them (or any I've missed) on the list if you can confirm that they belongs there (aka blesses/plagues a bloodline as long as the father has the v&v).

[Galagros]

This is really the wrong thread for this, since it applies to officers only, but I don't want to make a whole new thread.

In my current campaign Iceland has had 95% zeal for about a decade now and I've noticed that every single unit recruited there has 9 piety. Coincidence? I don't think so. Can someone tell me if the two are connected? I never had any idea of it, but that seems to be the case. Sorry if this has been discussed years ago.

[Martok]

In my current campaign Iceland has had 95% zeal for about a decade now and I've noticed that every single unit recruited there has 9 piety. Coincidence? I don't think so. Can someone tell me if the two are connected? I never had any idea of it, but that seems to be the case.

While I haven't specifically noticed the phenomenon you mentioned, it wouldn't terribly surprise me if that was indeed the case. There are numerous indications that there's a certain link between piety, zeal, and religion. Probably the best-known example is how governors of high-zeal provinces tend to develop traits that increase their piety. Another example is unit leaders that are dropped into a Crusade/Jihad stack often get increased piety (the Crusade/Jihad's commanding general in particular). So it is very possible (and reasonable) that units trained in high-zeal provinces start out with increased piety as well.

[Biggus Diccus]

In my current campaign Iceland has had 95% zeal for about a decade now and I've noticed that every single unit recruited there has 9 piety. Coincidence? I don't think so. Can someone tell me if the two are connected? I never had any idea of it, but that seems to be the case. Sorry if this has been discussed years ago.

This is indeed true Galagros! In my current Polish, early, GA, hard campaign I checked to see if this happened with me as well. I currently only have two major troop-building provinces: Poland with 60+ zeal and Moldavia with 10+ zeal. The units trained in Moldavia all have piety around 0-2, while those trained in Poland have piety from 4-7. Never noticed this before

[naut]

Don't attack and capture a province the year a Prince comes of age. In all of my campaigns when ever I've done this the Prince gets the Pride vice.

[Vladimir]

That's odd. My biggest problem with that is if I withdraw after I win a battle the AI counts the new prince's unit as an occupying army and usually results in a loyalist revolt.