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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    Evolution should not be defined as evolving favorable traits. That is putting the cart before the horse. Cause then effect not effect then cause.


    Favorable traits is what is selected, not what causes the change nor what does the selection.

    In Natural Selection it is the environment that does the selection which results in the species best suited for the current environment to propagate over the ones that are less suited for the current environment.

    In Artificial Selection it is humans (a self aware sub-component of the environment) which selects which set of organisms will get to propagate the next generation.

    What causes the change in the organisms is the combination of genes. Just combining genes in different combinations allows variation in organisms. Mutation of genes can then allow totally new organisms to come about.
    I didn't mean favorable traits, but mutations. Sorry about the mix up.



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    Thats fine you probably understand more about biology then I do... like always scientists and fanboys of science in other fields make some nasty critics... but we do keep each other honest... when not purposely undermining each others interests for the limited funds.

    I should do a paper titled.

    "The selection pressures on research funds and the evolution of titles and abstracts."
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