The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III

[econ21]

I think there might be a problem installing the latest version of 4TPY mod over our version of Metro-Naval. I did it and tried to start a new campaign but could not - I kept being bounced back to the "New campaign" screen after selecting a faction.

I suspect the problem is that the 4TPY mod has a descr_strat.txt file that is not compatible with the rest of the metro-naval stuff (for example, it will not have the unwalled cities and will have different naval units). When I overwrote the MN version of the file over the 4TPY one, I was able to start a new campaign.

The descr_strat.txt file is only read at the beginning of a campaign, so this might explain why some of us have been happily loading up savegames with the current installation. But in case anyone gets the urge to start their own campaign, I would recommend using the MN descr_strat.txt, not the 4TPY one. I suspect the other 4TPY files (mainly on vices and virtues)are fine.

If no one refutes the above info, I will modify the FAQ to include it.

[Lucjan]

I was having those problems only until I found a spot with full, unseperated download files for both the M&N and 4tpy mods. Thanks in part to Death for the M&N one.

[TinCow]

I will serve in whatever position is required, including a simple jury member if others wish to fill all the roles. If I am forced to serve as prosecution, please ignore my previous in-game statements about defending him.

[Death the destroyer of worlds]

I will serve in whatever position is required, including a simple jury member if others wish to fill all the roles. If I am forced to serve as prosecution, please ignore my previous in-game statements about defending him.

That's actually one of your funniest statements in months

Concerning the descr_strat.txt file, I worried about that too, but figured TinCow tested that. Yet I am a engineer and so wisely made backups of all the files affected by 4TPY 1.9.3. So no worries there, for me anyway. I could zip them together and upload them at the FileSpace if desired.
I think you only need to replace the new descr_strat.txt with the one generated by the M&N mod. Am I correct, econ21 ?

[econ21]

I think you only need to replace the new descr_strat.txt with the one generated by the M&N mod. Am I correct, econ21 ?

Yes, that's what I've done and it works. But I confess whenever I start a new SP campaign game, I find it overwhelming and quit. I can only really play TW in PBMs now!

[Death the destroyer of worlds]

I have the same problem, but I manage a serious effort at a campaign now and then, usually with a weak nation like the Germans.

Econ21, will you upload the M&N descr_strat.txt file and update the FAQ and post a message to all our lower house senators regarding this potential problem and how to fix it ? It's a bit of a hassle, but on the other hand, 4TPY 1.9.3 is very desirable if it fixes the problems we've been having.

[Braden]

Popped in. Lots (actually tons) to read through. So will post tomorrow guys.

Briefly though - Econ21, your ideas great and the support I'm getting from you and others is perfect for the next segment i.e. Personal Testimony

Ha! *Watch out!*

[Avicenna]

I'm sure TinCow or someone else already knows this, but just in case... for RP sake, whoever is the Praetor or judge for this can have the trait attributed to him manually. I just discovered it by accident when I wanted to give a character a general trait but I have him the Praetor one, and it's exactly what's needed for this case.

A general is a praetor

[Dooz]

A general is a praetor

Yeah, that's what I thought when I put the Praetor trait instead of General, and instead of the military rank, the character got the office of Praetor, and the description is judge and exactly what we need for this trial.