Anguish

[Geoffrey S]

Yep, then my meal will have finished cooking.

[NightStar]

"Just 5 minutes more, we are almost there..."

30 minutes later

"just 5 minutes...almost there"


And I was thinking what a liar the Sarge was

[Kull]

We realize you guys have been very patient, but as I noted in an earlier thread, v.80 is really 2 releases combined into one - the port over to 1.5 and the major new unit release. Lets put this in perspective. It took over a year to achieve the v.72 open beta, and another three months just to reach a fairly bug free version of that (v.74). We are approaching the six month window which would have been a realistic goal for the "combined release", but you have to realize that RTW v1.5 COMPLETELY DESTROYED the EB recruitment system, and by extension the governments it relied upon. It took a long time to get past the anguish and uncertainty and achieve a new system with the same flexibility and realism of the old, but it's safe to say that v1.5 resulted in months of rework.

We are not days or even a few weeks away. It is probably not many months, but we really won't know until all the new systems and scripts and units and recruitment are all in place and ready for testing. We hope that will be a short process, but RTW has a habit of throwing curves at us, so we'll have to see. As soon as we can make a legitimate forecast of the release date, we will endeavor to give you all a heads up.

[Fondor_Yards]

We are not days or even a few weeks away. It is probably not many months,

So it's several weeks away like 5-13? :( Oh well, as long as it's out by my winter break I'll be happy.

[Foot]

Kull knows better than anyone how long this will take. But be sure, the longer 0.8 takes to come out the more polished secondary objectives, eg descriptions and other little extras, will be.

Foot

[Laundreu]

Disappointing; I can't play Europa Barbarorum .74, as Rome: Total War 1.2 simply will not run on my computer; something in the copy protection is conflicting with my CD-Drive's drivers, and so it crashes, over and over again. Quite the annoyance.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Disappointing; I can't play Europa Barbarorum .74, as Rome: Total War 1.2 simply will not run on my computer; something in the copy protection is conflicting with my CD-Drive's drivers, and so it crashes, over and over again. Quite the annoyance.

Of course, EB members who do lots of descriptions and text work and other research have access to the ported 1.5 build. We should use that as motivation more often.

[Kull]

But be sure, the longer 0.8 takes to come out the more polished secondary objectives, eg descriptions and other little extras, will be.

Foot

True. In many ways, v.80 is more like three releases than two or one. After v.80, we should be able to establish goals for the remaining pre-v1.0 releases, and forecast their completion with a high degree of accuracy.

We HATE leaving you guys in limbo, but the problems associated with the RTW 1.5 port make this release more comparable to v.72 than v.74. Large segments of the core EB system were rebuilt from scratch, and the time frames associated with testing , bug tracking and fine tuning are difficult to forecast.

[-Praetor-]

True. In many ways, v.80 is more like three releases than two or one. After v.80, we should be able to establish goals for the remaining pre-v1.0 releases, and forecast their completion with a high degree of accuracy.

We HATE leaving you guys in limbo, but the problems associated with the RTW 1.5 port make this release more comparable to v.72 than v.74. Large segments of the core EB system were rebuilt from scratch, and the time frames associated with testing , bug tracking and fine tuning are difficult to forecast.

I personally appreciate the devs beign as sincere as you are by stating this...

It`s much more "fan friendly" (IMO) to say what the current situation is, no matter how bad or unpromising is. By this way, we know what to expect, and our expectations are set accordignly to the current situation.

Thank you for beign so straightforward to us, really appreciate.

[Tyfus]

Thanks Kull and Foot
I'm glad some people these days still acheive truthfulness. My anguish was over the not knowing anything as opposed to just wanting it now (although that would have been very exciting). No I totally understand and with what all you guys are doing for this community all I can say is take your time and I'm sure your anguish dealing with 1.5 patch was far greater than mine, but I'm glad you guys were able to work around it. I think now though I have a better idea of where the process is so I thank you heartily and give my full support for the "make it as polished as possible" mentality. Alot of us are so excited about this release that it has a higher priority than M2TW as far as anticipation goes.
So anyway thanks for the updates and I will pray to both Baal and Wodan so that the rest of the process goes smoothly and RTW stops giving those damn curve balls.

if anyone else would like to add their favorite Gods to the prayer feel free. these are just my personal favorites.

[Trithemius]

Can any non-essential EB staff keep making previews for us hordes of drooling fans, or are you all flat-out? :)