RE: news from the sky (question around background of the word 'aryan')

[Justiciar]

I know that Denmark was invaded by the Danes in around 200AD and the celtic people that lived there previous vanished (presumably absorbed, but we know close to nothing about this). So there aren't any 'Celtic' people around. So we don't have this kind of 'struggle'. But I'm certain we would have if the Romans had conquered Denmark and we would have known something about it and it's people.

Hasn't Denmark always been the centre of the Germanic linguistic/ethnic group? I've never heard anything about Danes replacing Celts. Infact, if I recall correctly they were one of the tribes that grew from the vacuum left by the Teutones. The only people the Danes replaced were the continental Jutes, Angles, perhaps a few Geats, and a number of smaller tribes. You do however have something going on between Danes living on the isles and those living on the mainland, though, right?

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Did that post even make sense? If it didn't, sorry, I'm knackered.

[Kraxis]

It makes sense enough.

The Teutons were from Germania proper, while their 'friends' the Cimbri were from Denmark, supposedly the most northern part (Himmerland has a striking similarity in name), but the Cimbri were a celtic tribe, with a lot of cultural ties to Germania it seems. The tribes on the isles seem to be rather unknown.

The Danes however originate on the same region as the Goths in Götaland in Sweden. But while the Goths went south, the Danes went west, and the Svea remained at home more or less. As late as the 800s the lands of Halland (south of Gothenburg) are still considered the home of the Danes by a chronicler in the service of king of Mercia. Thus it makes sense that they joined the Danish kingdom rather than the Swedish kingdoms to their north and east.
By this time the local tribes can be considered Germanic, if not ethnically, then at least in an amalgated culture. Perhaps the Cimbri exodus had something to do with that? Who knows.

But the Danes were invaders, and they never truly took over the entire area. The Jutes remained seperate, at least until they and their southern neighbours went to Britannia (it has been mentioned that the Danish pressure could have sparked off the invasions of Britannia, at least in part). Possibly even much longer, but the lack of written accounts really hurt when trying to find out.

Leet, it isn't about them actually being one thing or the other, but their fear of being one rather than the other.