The Post-Millenium U.S. Civil War

[Divinus Arma]

I'm no conspiracy theorist. UFOs, Area 51, "Bush Lied", 9/11 was missles, Saquatch, the boogie man: These are all just vehicles for the extremist paranoid or those that make money off them. Despite this, I'm starting to see a really scary trend in the United States that bodes ill for all: The leftist liberal agenda to dominate the world. I know I know. Here we go again, right? But consider:

(1) The Democrats have a stated platform to consolidate power in the federal government while diminishing States' rights. This has already been executed beautifully and silently with not a whimper from the sleeping populace. By concentrating power into the hands of the few, these few are made unaccountable in a representative republic where money and connections determine the candidates. Primaries are a joke, with huge campaigns financed against those that go against the Democrat Party agenda (Lieberman).

(2) The leftist propoganda machine. The leftist liberals of this nation and many of the ignorant masses who claim centrism or moderation (buzz words for not knowing squat) are fed the tripe propagated by the hollywood populare culture machine. They listen to the leftist ramblings of John Stewart on the Daily Show and believe that to be an educated opinion, rather than the propoganda that it is. They soke up these idiot hollywood celebs on the left who suddenly have brilliant minds in public policy. The Democrats used to be very pro-Israel and the Republicans were the "evil racists", but now the leftists all rally for Hizbullah and against Israel.

(3) The errosion of individual responsibility. Our popular culture is one of instant gratification and reliance on others. Why is it suddenly the Government's job to feed, educate, and provide for the people? The people are supposed to provide for themselves and the government is supposed to ensure that opportunity. If some one spills hot coffee on themselves they want to sue because the coffee is too hot. Somebody chokes on a peanut and the restaurant is to blame.

What does this all add up to? A mass population of ignorant children who need to feed up on the government tit because they can't think beyond that. They do what they are told by hollywood and the liberal spin machine. Now we have this massive IDIOTIC contingent of Americans who think that the U.S. government blew up the pentagon with missles thanks to some fancy flash video that went around the internet a couple years back. Half of this country consists of lazy, spoiled, ignorant obese fat bastards who sit on there butt and watch TV and expect a retirement from uncle sam.

And the more this continues, the more people like me stand up and say WTF?! HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MINDS?? But we are getting drowned out by the liberal propoganda machine which tells the masses that corporations are bad, making money is bad, worshiping the Lord is bad, working is bad, etc. Lets open our damn borders and let in all the illegals because we feel so sorry for them. Now let's raise all of the taxes on the rich and give it to all of the low skilled workers, thus MAKING THEM EVEN MORE DEPENDANT ON GOVERNMENT. Let's give them health care that will suck but be paid for by middle class and rich people. And the ignorant masses will just sit back and drink it in and stop thinking.

Just like so many dman other people I see and hear everday. Half of my country has turned into popular culture robots. All they do is screw, spend, whine, and ask for more free crap.

And so I think we are going to have a civil war in this country one day. That's no conspiracy theory. It goes back to my claim that socialist will win. The socialist will win in this country because people are lazy and stupid and we have no machination for allowing natural selection to occur like it should. These people are Zombies and nothing more. And once the socialists take over and tax the crap out of everybody who makes more than $12 an hour, the rest of us who are awake are going to turn on these liberal SOBs who have destroyed these United States. Damn Straight we want a right to bear arms. The founding fathers had a mechanism for preventing a tyranny of the elite- the right to bear arms.

And perhaps after bin laden blows us up again, (which will be blamed on Republicans instead of Democrat retreats and apologists), the Democrats will rape us all of our rights and try to take away our guns. The liberal leftsist hippies will whine about the evil repressive armed republican and we who support the constituion will be villified. Then the constitution will be amended and whittled away because these democrats SOBs can interpret the constitution only with so much liberality.

Damnnit my country is going down the toilet and the retarded masses just sit back and let it happen. These leftsist liberals are the ones worried about "control": We'll lose our rights and fall under global socialism by a distant world government thanks to you. Then we'll see a new civil war. A civil war led by those seeking liberty once again. And when my constitution is trashed and raped by the brain-washed liberal elite and their zombie pop-culture army, I'll be the first to say grab your weapon, and follow me.
/rant

Hadn't posted in a while. I've been pretty pissed off at the leftist liberal movement lately. They already want to abandon our friends in Iraq and I am seeing good Republican Conservatives being turned by the sheer numbers of liberal zombies. There are two types of liberals: Those who know what's best for you, and those that listen. Master and Slave.

[Divinus Arma]

Pretty one-sided, DA. I could play devil's advocate and lay down the ills of the supposedly "right" element of the government, but instead i'll simply say that we are indeed at a crucial point in our development. Our military power, our economic power, and our national prestige are all on the line, and we are more polarized than we've been in over a hundred years. The next 10 years will be very interesting to watch.

Well no kidding its one-sided. I'm not trying to be anything but that. EDIT: Is the truth ever anything but?

But let me tell you something: At least I know the lesser of two evils: One party that makes it public policy to take away property and rights and give it to the ignorant fools that don't deserve it, a party that denies the existence of morality and thus thinks the concept of "evil v. good" irrelevant, or a party that, in its roots and as stated public policy, stands for states' rights, individual and economic freedom, and personal responsibility.

I know the Republican party has been screwing the pooch on some key issues. But this is no reason to go running into the arms of the devil.

[Divinus Arma]

And until that day, we must work within one of the two parties to have our agneda heard. Clearly that is impossible in the party of Chomsky and Sheehan.

[Duke John]

Ignorancy and being led by lies and popularism is not caused by your dearly loved Democrats. You are giving them too much credit. I think it is caused more by our consumer society where the "I" is more important than the "we".

And your definition of liberal is still wrong.

[Major Robert Dump]

You want to know something funny? Until a few weeks ago, I had heard the name "chomsky" and recognized it but didn't know really who he was. Want to know something funnier? I had no idea who George Soros was until a few weeks ago as well.

Whats my point? My point is that I don't give two sheets what either of those men have done and how they have affected the "party", nor do I give two sheets what people think of me because of the party I "belong" to. Last I checked, I didn't elect DNC officers, calls to Congresspeople do not work unless theres a PR stunt, and I have to work my ass off to play catch up all my life, so pardon me for not being more willing to engage in longterm debates over the evilness of Democrats and Liberals.

Sometimes people pick a party not because they agree more with that one, but because certain aspects of the other party piss them off. Pressing issues tend to even themselves out eventually, parties vie back and forth to keep balance, bad things happen and get fixed, and blaming every liberal or democrat for something that murtha, or dean, or gore said about transfatty acid is pretty typical of both sides. Lowest common denominator. Yes, it's all my fault. All of it, even the hot coffee lawsuits

[Ironside]

Ignorancy and being led by lies and popularism is not caused by your dearly loved Democrats. You are giving them too much credit. I think it is caused more by our consumer society where the "I" is more important than the "we".

And your definition of liberal is still wrong.

His definition of leftist/socialist is still wrong... He still have a tendecy to define it as "anything I dislike".


But basically both parties has become populist machines, driven by huge lobbyists, interested mainly in powergrabs. Both betraying thier original ideals. You need something to revive your parties (like a third party).

The leftist liberal agenda to dominate the world

I'm impressed by your observation skills. The assumed fortress of leftist liberal agenda, Scandinavia and northern Europe haven't noticed this yet.

[rory_20_uk]

1) Bush has enjoyed consolidating power as much as anyone. The Terrorism Act, Wiretapping all show that power and surveillence is being consolidated - under the Right wing.

2) The right propaganda machine is also extremely active. America's unwavering support of Israel even when conducting an illegal war is evidence of this.

3) This is the democrats? You could equally say that it was the Big companies that back both parties. And if one thinks of Big Business bieng Right Wing, it is the Republicans that are backing this turning of the populace into a selfish bunch of mindless consumers.

Taxes are currently dropping. Them poor rich are paying too much so need to have some tax breaks.

Worship has nothing to do with right or left. Perhaps the deaths due to religion are upsetting some?

Friends in Iraq? I think that most Iraqis wouldn't view them as friends of America. things like the genocide after the Shi'ia uprising after the first Gulf War might have something to do with it.

How do guns help stop eroding of your rights? untrained civilians vs. a modern army... Wrong century - they're only good for hunting animals or other gang members. The entire armed forces didn't stop 9/11. Nor did the armed republicans. What good have the guns been?

The Left is centralising power (bad) AND giving it away to other countries!

Feed, educate and provide for the people... Erm I think it's because you don't want them to be ignorant people sitting around and screwing. And who set up the healthcare? A Republican wasn't it?

Your voice might be drowned out as so few others are interested in what you have to say. No conspiracy required.

Pleased you got that bile out of your system. Amusing how one can get so angry the other side are guilty for things on both ends of the spectrum.

[Don Corleone]

Well, I hate to come out and publicly disagree with you Eclectic, but I think you're off base. Way off base.

For starters, I no longer see two parties at work within the US. There is only one... the party of "We've been elected and we want to stay that way". There is no statesmanship, no principal, no core belief any more. You can dismiss it as 'the lesser of two evils", but frankly, I lost the ability to distinguish between Democrats and Republicans in government. Why do I say that?

Republicans are supposed to be the party of fiscal responsibility. They are supposed to be the party of limited government. Do you see anything in Medicaid PartD that even remotely smacks of limited government or fiscal responsiblity? Does it even help the old people it claims to?? No. The Bush administration has made the Republicans into the very caricature that Republicans have been tarred with in the past... a clearing house for big business to get funding out of the government (in this case, the pharmaceutical companies). And to keep your mind off these things, they dance out non-issues like a constitutional ammendment to ban gay marriage. Even if they were serious about it, it is a flyspeck of importance compared to our fiscal policy woes these days. And they're not serious about it!!! They're not even trying to get the damned thing passed. They want to keep it up on Capitol Hill so they can trot it out every 6 months to a year and say "we're working hard for your interests".

Democrats are no better. I'm not advocating jumping ship and going their way, as they have betrayed all of their populist-progressive ideology as well. At the end of the day, the only difference that I see between the Democrats and the Republicans is which particular lobbies are going to get more traction. I may even quit voting, just monitoring elections to rebalance my portfolio...

Hmmm, Democrats took the House? Better up my stake in Google and Microsoft. Hmm, Republicans increased their lead in the Senate? Need more energy and pharmaceutical stocks. One thing is for sure. A winning bet is to short sell the American taxpayer, every damned time.

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My God, I've been possessed by KhafirChobee.

[Radier]

I'm impressed by your observation skills. The assumed fortress of leftist liberal agenda, Scandinavia and northern Europe haven't noticed this yet.

Speak for yourselfe. I think Swedish media is left-vinged.

A large majority of journalists are lefties too...

[Ironside]

Speak for yourselfe. I think Swedish media is left-vinged.

A large majority of journalists are lefties too...

And that indicates that they're a coherent and vital part of a bigger plan to get the NWO to unite the world under the banner of Socialism (non-democratic version) how?

As for media bias, always ask yourself what truly unbiased news would look like, compare it how it's reported and compare it to how you would have it reported.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Yo, Eclectic:

[Strike For The South]

The problem is not the American people its the morons we elect. Only nut jobs come out for congress and senate races. The key is trying to get normal people to vote. Not to mention people get all outta whack when there guy goes across party lines Liberman is a great example of this. He votes dem 90% of the time and he is villanized as a republican lover. People get to cuaght in the party and not the issue.

[Louis VI the Fat]

I'm no conspiracy theorist. UFOs, Area 51, "Bush Lied", 9/11 was missles, Saquatch, the boogie man: These are all just vehicles for the extremist paranoid or those that make money off them. Despite this, I'm starting to see a really scary trend in the United States that bodes ill for all: The leftist liberal agenda to dominate the world. I know I know.

My, feeling a bit paranoid today, Eclectic?

Reid my lips: there is no leftist liberal conspiracy in the US.

[Kanamori]

Does it seem a bit perverse to anyone else to name your lips after Harry Reid?

[Csargo]

Viva la Revolution I always say.