To chop or not to chop?

[Divinus Arma]

Well? nip or no nip?

Here's a new article on the topic:
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/hea...cle1217831.ece

[Idaho]

There is another message board that I frequent and circumcision threads are banned because they always turn into flame wars for some reason.

If you are a desert nomad with poor access to washing facilities it is probably a good idea. For the rest of us - don't bother.

[Major Robert Dump]

Circumsized penises have more character

[Idaho]

Less sensitivity however.

[rory_20_uk]

Less chance of contracting STDs, especially AIDS.
Generally more hygenic
Reduces risk of cancer (although pretty low in the first place).
Less sensitivity is better, surely? There are some journeys that where the fun is getting there.

[Reenk Roink]

http://www.medicirc.org/major_benefits.html
http://familydoctor.org/042.xml
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...ticlekey=51742

The benefits are there, but their degree is disputed...

Guess it's mainly up to personal choice...

[Idaho]

Less chance of contracting STDs, especially AIDS.
Generally more hygenic
Reduces risk of cancer (although pretty low in the first place).
Less sensitivity is better, surely? There are some journeys that where the fun is getting there.

I go with evolution on this one.

[Don Corleone]

Less sensitivity however.

Yeah, you can last longer for your old lady. Who wants to be known as 'Johnny 2 Seconds'?

Besides, anecdotally, I thought that having a foreskin increased your chances for contracting venereal diseases (and for some unknown reason, cancer).

Edit: Oops, missed Reenk's post. Sorry about that.

[Sigurd]

This is just too funny…
What was it you Americans called the uncircumcised? Oh I remember “windsocks“.

[English assassin]

Its "Cavaliers" in the UK, and "Roundheads" for those that had the snip.

A cavalier yesterday: http://gallery.euroweb.hu/html/h/hal.../16nolaug.html and his roundhead opponent: http://www.lichfield.gov.uk/heritage.../roundhead.jpg

Observe the headgear...

[GoreBag]

Its "Cavaliers" in the UK, and "Roundheads" for those that had the snip.

A cavalier yesterday: http://gallery.euroweb.hu/html/h/hal.../16nolaug.html and his roundhead opponent: http://www.lichfield.gov.uk/heritage.../roundhead.jpg

Observe the headgear...

Sweet! I'm naming my penis Matthew Hopkins today!

"I'm a Witchfinder General.."

[Slyspy]

Its "Cavaliers" in the UK, and "Roundheads" for those that had the snip.

A cavalier yesterday: http://gallery.euroweb.hu/html/h/hal.../16nolaug.html and his roundhead opponent: http://www.lichfield.gov.uk/heritage.../roundhead.jpg

Observe the headgear...

Of course Roundheads were so named (as an insult by the Royalists) because the first recruits to Parliament's side were mostly apprentices in London, with their close cropped hair. Not because the cavalry worn a round tin hat.

[Grey_Fox]

Circumcision is not mutilation. I had mine removed when I was around 4 or so because it was causing extreme pain every time I pissed and haven't regretted having it removed. It's nothing really, and doesn't cause any harm.

[Lemur]

Well, right, of course. If a part of your body is infected or otherwise malfunctioning, you treat it. The problem I have is with circumcision done routinely to perfectly healthy baby boys. When I have the time I'll link to a video the the Penn and Teller Bulls Hit program on circumcision, since they condensed a great deal of the same research I did into an easily-digested video format.

Although they completely missed out on the whole business of how circumcision got so darn popular in the U.S.

[Sjakihata]

no chopping for me, thankyouverymuch!

[yesdachi]

I voted “chop”. I (my wife too) find it better aesthetically and hygienically.

I was there for my son’s and it went fine. I dipped my finger in sugar water and let him suck on it like a pacifier while the doc used a little contraption that ensures no “mistakes” to snip off the hood. It looks good and we have never had any infection issues.

[Bar Kochba]

i had it chopped at 8 days old and i dont see anything wrong with it

[drone]

I figured I'd resurrect this beauty instead of starting a new one. Why deprive newer Backroom members of the sheer genius in this thread?

The Third World is about to get a little shorter...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6502855.stm

Kevin De Cock, director of HIV/AIDS at the World Health Organization said: "The recommendations represent a significant step forward in HIV prevention."

It's nice to see De Cock is still running the show...

[Lemur]

Yup, in Africa they've shown that circumcision lowers HIV infection rates. Then again, anything is helpful in areas where dry sex is popular.

P.S.: Nice thread spelunking, drone.

[drone]

Yup, in Africa they've shown that circumcision lowers HIV infection rates. Then again, anything is helpful in areas where dry sex is popular.

The phrase "Who put sand in my Astro-glide?" comes to mind.

[Divinus Arma]

Yup, in Africa they've shown that circumcision lowers HIV infection rates. Then again, anything is helpful in areas where dry sex is popular.

That is the most horrible thing I have ever read. It is MADNESS!!!

I prefer swimming, myself.

edit: and a question for our medical personnel--how frequently would you recommend retraction and cleaning?

I always knew this thread was disgusting.

To answer the question: At least twice Daily. Or thrice. Or more. Everytime you use the restroom.

[master of the puppets]

chop, makes it look bigger.

gotta look out for the kids future.

[doc_bean]

chop, makes it look bigger.

gotta look out for the kids future.

Unchopped feels better (to the guy anyway, can't speak for the women here).

I know what I prefer.

[Louis VI the Fat]

chop, makes it look bigger.

* enter hot babe * :


"Sure honey, yours looks at least this long: "

"But if you don't mind, I prefer performance over flash. What really gets women off is width, and all girls know unchopped are wider by quite a marging".

[Lemur]

Chopped makes it look bigger? Well, when I was making up my mind for my little baby lemur, one of the people I spoke to was a surgeon, who had a very different take. He said that by losing the li'l bit of extra flesh, you could actually shorten a man's dangly bit through circumcision. He didn't think it was at all unlikely.

Anyway, done is done. If my boy wants to chop, he's free to do so in sixteen years or so. You can always take away, but you can never give back.

[Blodrast]

Anyway, done is done. If my boy wants to chop, he's free to do so in sixteen years or so. You can always take away, but you can never give back.

To quote one of our friends here, bollox! Maybe you shouldn't disregard all those helpful emails about adding a coupla inches, y'know...

[Lemur]

The scientific take on the debate. Needless to say, there's more than one view:

Does circumcision harm your sex life? This question has become more pressing than ever with the recent endorsement by the World Health Organization of circumcision as a means of reducing HIV infection in Africa (New Scientist, 31 March, p 7). But as two new studies show, it's proving tricky to resolve.

Kimberley Payne of the Riverside Professional Centre in Ottawa, Canada, and her colleagues tested the sensitivity of 20 intact and 20 circumcised men's penises as they watched erotic movie clips, by touching the penises with filaments that press down with predetermined amounts of pressure (The Journal of Sexual Medicine, DOI: 10.1111/j.1743-6109.2007.00471.x). They found no difference in penile sensation between circumcised and uncircumcised men.

However, when Robert Van Howe of Michigan State University used a similar method to measure sensitivity at 19 points along the penises of 163 men, he found that the five most sensitive points were all in portions of the penis removed by circumcision, especially those in folds exposed as the penis becomes erect (BJU International, vol 99, p 864).

Van Howe says Payne's team might have had similar results if they had tested more men and made measurements at more than two points. He denied that funding by the National Organization of Circumcision Information Resource Centers, which opposes circumcision, influenced the result. "It would be hard to fake," he says. He hopes other groups will try to replicate the findings.