To chop or not to chop?

[Divinus Arma]

Well? nip or no nip?

Here's a new article on the topic:
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/hea...cle1217831.ece

[Idaho]

There is another message board that I frequent and circumcision threads are banned because they always turn into flame wars for some reason.

If you are a desert nomad with poor access to washing facilities it is probably a good idea. For the rest of us - don't bother.

[Major Robert Dump]

Circumsized penises have more character

[Idaho]

Less sensitivity however.

[rory_20_uk]

Less chance of contracting STDs, especially AIDS.
Generally more hygenic
Reduces risk of cancer (although pretty low in the first place).
Less sensitivity is better, surely? There are some journeys that where the fun is getting there.

[Reenk Roink]

http://www.medicirc.org/major_benefits.html
http://familydoctor.org/042.xml
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...ticlekey=51742

The benefits are there, but their degree is disputed...

Guess it's mainly up to personal choice...

[Silver Rusher]

Sure, it has benefits, but at the end of the day I don't think too many of us want the chop for obvious reasons, unless it has been given at birth (then again, I'm sure they wouldn't have wanted it in the first place)

[Lemur]

I decided that I would be the last lemur with a chopped Johnson. The little lemurs are safe from the knife.

[Don Corleone]

Less sensitivity however.

Yeah, you can last longer for your old lady. Who wants to be known as 'Johnny 2 Seconds'?

Besides, anecdotally, I thought that having a foreskin increased your chances for contracting venereal diseases (and for some unknown reason, cancer).

Edit: Oops, missed Reenk's post. Sorry about that.

[Idaho]

Less chance of contracting STDs, especially AIDS.
Generally more hygenic
Reduces risk of cancer (although pretty low in the first place).
Less sensitivity is better, surely? There are some journeys that where the fun is getting there.

I go with evolution on this one.

[danfda]

I didn't have a choice. I grew up thinking mine looked normal (small, but normal). Everyone else I've ever seen (this may sound bad, but really it isn't) had the little one chopped. However, assuming I reproduce, I think I'll let my male heirs make that decision, for better or worse.

[Ja'chyra]

The words scapel and wanger should never be in the same sentence.................. unless it's to say they shouldn't be in the same sentence

Anyway, who wants to last longer when there's TV to be watched If you do want to last longer just drink vodka, always works for me.

[ICantSpellDawg]

well the jews do it and they have the power to start all the wars in the world.

whats good enough for jews is good enough for me.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

since im fillipino-american, i was already chopped when i just came out of the world.

[Don Corleone]

Just out of curiosity, Idaho... how does this particular topic end up turning into a flame war? Do people start insisting that the other side adopt their position?

I will say (and I'm actually pro-circumcision) I find it amusing how upset women get over the topic of female circumcision (even among baby girls) yet don't even think twice about lopping off the tip of their little boys' willies.

[English assassin]

If you do want to last longer just drink vodka, always works for me.

Or you could try thinking about your wife, instead of her sister...

Idaho, while you are answering DC's question, could you also explain what you are doing on chatboards where penises are such a regular topic of conversation that you have rules as to what aspects of penile affairs can and cannot be safely discussed?

As to the qu, I couldn't care less about your John Thomases, and I am perfectly happy with mine the way it is.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Just out of curiosity, Idaho... how does this particular topic end up turning into a flame war? Do people start insisting that the other side adopt their position?

I will say (and I'm actually pro-circumcision) I find it amusing how upset women get over the topic of female circumcision (even among baby girls) yet don't even think twice about lopping off the tip of their little boys' willies.

Female circumcision is more like castration. Involves removal rather than just a snip. Bit of a misnomer really.

[Divinus Arma]

Female circumcision removes the hood protecting the clitoris. It does not remove the actual clitoris.

edit: clitoridotomy vs. clitoridectomy. Wiki rocks.

[Ice]

A study published last month calculated that if all men in sub-Saharan Africa were circumcised, it would prevent almost six million new cases of HIV infection and save three million lives over the next 20 years.

Damn! It should be a parental choice, although I do think one method is superior to the other.

[Devastatin Dave]

I like my snip. I'll draw eyes on him and play puppet show for the wife. Sometimes I throw some feathers on the base and play ostrich with her as well.

[Don Corleone]

I like my snip. I'll draw eyes on him and play puppet show for the wife. Sometimes I throw some feathers on the base and play ostrich with her as well.

And here all this time, I've just playing 'hide the salami' with Mrs. Corleone. Funny, she never seemed all that interested in puppets or ostriches. Must be a Georgia thing.

[GoreBag]

M'eh. Some people say it traumatises the child. I was upset when I found out what circumcision meant, but it's no big deal. I have no problem with genital mutilation, but it's your kid.

[Devastatin Dave]

. Must be a Georgia thing.

You should see what I do with grits and moon pies!!!

[Strike For The South]

Grits are horrible

[Lemur]

Just to throw a little more out there -- my little lemur can always get circumcised, if he likes, when he grows up. You can always take away, but you can never put it back.

Reason enough to leave his willie alone.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Just to throw a little more out there -- my little lemur can always get circumcised, if he likes, when he grows up. You can always take away, but you can never put it back.

Reason enough to leave his willie alone.

It's not a big deal for a baby, but for an adult it's a major ordeal. I believe one of the reasons circumcision became popular was that there is a chance they would have to get it for medical reasons later, and no one wanted to put them through that.

[orangat]

The study in question is flawed because the circumcised men were advised and got into the habit of using condoms and the number and rate of seropositive test results among the circumcised has risen quite rapidly after the study.
http://www.circumstitions.com/HIV-SA.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/aids/story/0,,1836572,00.html

The College of Physicians and Surgeons of British Columbia, CPA, BMA and BAPA take the stance of actualy discouraging routine circumcision. The AMA and AAP are more neutral but do not recommend routine circumcision either.

If anyone on this forum have greater resources and medical know-how than the combined recommendations of the CPS, AAP, AMA, BMA, BAPA I'm all ears.

[Lemur]

Watch a video of a baby being circumcised. Trust me, it's a big deal for them. Just because they don't remember it later doesn't obviate the screaming and apparent agony they face when they're chopped. At least as an adult you can get anesthesia -- which is not available for a newborn.

Honestly, I think the practice is barbaric. What reading I did when I was faced with this question indicated that the popularity of circumcision in 20th century America had a lot to do with early-century anti-masturbation hysteria.

If there's real interest, I'll dig up my old research and post it here.

[GoreBag]

Honestly, I think the practice is barbaric.

Not really pertinent at all, but I do think this position is hilarious.

[Pannonian]

Post by Gorebag
I don't know why, but I find your name amusing in juxtaposition with the thread subject. An operation gone wrong, perhaps?