Fragile chariots

**Trithemius** · 08-11-2006, 12:20

I was wondering if Casse chariots are getting a bit more resilient in the upcoming version? I find them extremely fragile, almost to the point of being useless, in the current build. Presumably the wealthy chariot-owning class should probably afford some kind of decent armour?

**Fondor_Yards** · 08-11-2006, 17:20

Chariots were very fragile in meele. You can't use them like normal cavalry. Charge them through the enemy lines to lower morale and mess up their formation, then sit behind their lines as the infantry charges their disorangized ones. Then during the meele, charge them from behind and chances are they will rout.

**fallen851** · 08-11-2006, 18:55

I'm not sure what the EB team is going to do about chariots, because CA created quite a problem with them, chariots are very overpowered in autocalc, but very underpowered in battle.

I've been testing 1.5 for quite some time now, and found a very good method for increasing the effectiveness of chariots in battle, while at the same time slightly reducing their power in autocalc. They aren't tanks in my balance, but they aren't useless like I've seen in Vanilla or .74 EB. I'll be rebalancing the entire EDU text when .8 comes out.

**Tyfus** · 08-11-2006, 19:18

whats more important is that there should be a new skin for the chariots so even if they die quickley they'll look good doing it!

**Moros** · 08-11-2006, 19:40

Originally Posted by rcross

whats more important is that there should be a new skin for the chariots so even if they die quickley they'll look good doing it!

not up to date are we?

**Tyfus** · 08-11-2006, 19:49

HELLA!!

Sorry I just had to have a little dance party

**Tyfus** · 08-11-2006, 19:51

Originally Posted by Gertgregoor

not up to date are we?

I knew about the pics I just wasn't sure they'd be implemented in .8

**Trithemius** · 08-12-2006, 09:22

Originally Posted by Gertgregoor

not up to date are we?

The guys depicted in this image have more gear on than some of the Casse troops, but still seem to have less armour rating.

**Trithemius** · 08-12-2006, 09:20

Originally Posted by Fondor_Yards

Chariots were very fragile in meele. You can't use them like normal cavalry. Charge them through the enemy lines to lower morale and mess up their formation, then sit behind their lines as the infantry charges their disorangized ones. Then during the meele, charge them from behind and chances are they will rout.

They tend to be obliterated when I charge with them too. Perhaps I should be playing with smaller units, but even my tough and hale generals take some serious losses before getting to the other side of an enemy unit with the unit size setting I am using.

I understand that chariots are not especially good in prolonged melee, but neither are cavalry and cavalry do not have the absolute lack of armour that Casse chariots have.

**Imperator Silas** · 08-14-2006, 17:17

Funny thing, I thought they were pretty tough in the original game

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**soibean** · 08-14-2006, 20:41

concerning chariots and siege battles
will/can anything be done with this unit when its inside a town?
they seemed completely useless when you were attacking a settlement.

**Simmons** · 08-15-2006, 07:11

Originally Posted by soibean

concerning chariots and siege battles
will/can anything be done with this unit when its inside a town?
they seemed completely useless when you were attacking a settlement.

I don't really know anything about chariot warfare other than they perform better on flat open ground so I can imagine them being pretty crap on the narrow streets of a city

But then I can also imagine clowns dancing on the moon.