New 3d unit: Armoured Longbowmen

[TB666]

New unit is up
http://www.totalwar.com/en/medieval2...its/index.html
Nice looking unit as always

[Bob the Insane]

Cool...

Kinda reminds me of the samurai archers (in use rather than looks)...

[hoetje]

Armoured longbowmen look cool indeed.

And TB666,omg,you are always so fast with reporting the newsflashes,I think you deserve another cookie.:P

[Vladimir]

Sorry dude, it's hot there.

[Ibn Munqidh]

No dude, it is there, and it looks great!

[Furious Mental]

Nice. In screenshots and videos I've also seen "yeomen archers". Obviously lots of longbowmen then.

[Duke John]

The only good news in here is that TB666 once again set an example how to post news, have some beer with your cookie!

[edyzmedieval]

Was there such a unit as Armoured Longbowmen? And Yeomen Archer are the same thing.

TB666

[Duke John]

Yes, look at them as being the longbowmen of the retinue of a lord; profesional soldiers. They didn't wear striped underwear over their armour though

[econ21]

Ironically, one historical reference I can think of for armoured longbowmen was as a troop type of the French, after the Hundred Years War. But as Duke John says, some of the English longbowmen in that war - and after in the War of the Roses - would likely have had some armour. English longbowmen were at least semi-professional soldiers, fighting for pay in a land across the sea. From some of the bows discovered, they must have been physically imposing, tall and strong men - in practice, probably quite handy in a melee, although we probably won't see that here for rock-paper-scissors reasons. The initial analogy in this thread with Samaurai archers is not a bad one, actually.

[hoetje]

The only good news in here is that TB666 once again set an example how to post news, have some beer with your cookie!

Let's keep 'em sending those cookies untill he is as fat as a polar bear :P

[GodWillsIt]

The swords they carry provide a handy fallback weapon in close
combat.

i see no sword??

[hoetje]

They hid the sword in their backpocket...

[B-Wing]

I reckon this means there will be a cheaper, unarmored longbowman? I like that.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

longbows.
my second favorite after chivalric foot knights.
they are invincible...

[Ignoramus]

I reckon this means there will be a cheaper, unarmored longbowman? I like that.

"When engaged in melee, their heavy armour provides protection that
allows them to hold out quite a bit longer than their unarmoured
counterparts."

I think so.

[edyzmedieval]

longbows.
my second favorite after chivalric foot knights.
they are invincible...

I'll charge you anytime with Exhoubitoi Tagmata Klibanophoroi, from the Byzantines.

You'll NEVER beat those.

[Little Legioner]

Just give me mine Big Bertha canon of Ottomans. With the one shot they'll find themselves in the heaven of archers.

[Mount Suribachi]

From some of the bows discovered, they must have been physically imposing, tall and strong men - in practice, probably quite handy in a melee,

I saw a documentary several years ago where they excavated a mass grave from the wars of the Roses and got forensics people in to examine the skeletons. They showed from the bones how the arms of the longbowmen were very strong and muscular, much more so than the average citizen of that era

[Orda Khan]

OK, I suppose. I would expect the buckler to be plain metal and not coloured and preferably hanging from his belt until hand to hand. The back quiver should not be there at all

.....Orda

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

I would like to have seen the archers armed with the Ballock dagger or maybe even a falchion as in the early years of the wars with scotland and the opening phases of the HYW, they prefered the weapon especially when in times of the melee

The longbowmen would often hire themselves to most mercenary companies and would later serve in the 15th century Burgundian armies, mostly all were killed in the Swiss Wars though. The retainer archers of the Lords would have no doubt been armoured in some way. The lighter clad archers would use a padded jack and usually a helmet, most probably the sallet. Some archers if they coukd afford it would have had mail of some kind. Alot of the archers companies would have been ;ed to war by men who had fought against the scots from the Northern counties and using the the contracts of indenture, would sign up to serve in France and then low countries. As we all know the welsh were famous for their archers but the men of the north particulary Cheshire and the Macclesfield forests were reknown bowmen from the scottish wars

I also think they should be called warbowmen or great bowmen, as the term "Longbow" did not exist in that age.

[Orda Khan]

I would like to have seen the archers armed with the Ballock dagger.

Me too. An overlooked yet very effective weapon. Less cumbersome than a sword yet capable of deflecting blows and for parrying when used in conjunction with the buckler, which was also a very effective offensive weapon. The bollock dagger could easily find those areas between plate armour; armpits, neck area and the reason for its name, the crotch

........Orda

[Midnight]

Not bad, but I'd prefer to see the quiver on the hip.

[sunsmountain]

I prefer knives to swords as well, but archers did use both. In fact I'm pretty sure we'll see both, with the graphics engine generating them on the fly.

[ShadesWolf]

I wonder how many different types we are going to get ?
Are we also going to get French and Burgundian Longbowmen?

[edyzmedieval]

I wonder how many different types we are going to get ?
Are we also going to get French and Burgundian Longbowmen?

Wars of the Roses Longbowmen, Stake Planting Agincourt Longbowmen....

[Lord Adherbal]

Wars of the Roses Longbowmen, Stake Planting Agincourt Longbowmen....

Apache Longbowmen - can hover in the air and fire exploding arrows at the enemy below.