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[poo_for_brains]

Is it me or is America one big Province?

It's just you.


Has Ituralde been on this thread? Because in another thread he mentioned that he had seen the entire map, and faction starting positions in a german pc mag - so he should be able to authenticate the map.

[Geoffrey S]

Provinces in Balkan Peninsula are pure catastrophe.

Yeah, I really dislike the way eastern europe provinces are lumped together in huge clumps. It's been a problem with both RTW and MTW, and I liked how it was improved in for instance EB.

[Woad Warrior]

@ Damiekpe - no, I think here's right, America (not the Americas) is one big province.

A completely seperate map would have been ideal for the Americas. That one they've shown us is just plain ugly, its not like they've made places disproportionally sized for gameplay reasons (like the giant Europe in the board game Axis&Allies to fit in more provinces in the important areas). I mean, America (as in US not Americas) is one giant province. Why?

Although all this is disappointing, its not the biggest deal in the world, is it? It will soon be fixed by the modders; MA and MTR aren't including the Americas. And someone will probably come up with a quick-fix map in a week or two of the games release, so its really not a big problem.

[L'Impresario]

I think it beats the point having the Timurids as a faction if the map ends near/along the Tigris river. Most of Timur's greatest holdings are near Khorasan (not to mention Samarkhand), and the map doesn't even approach the area. Ofcourse the same thing can be told about the Mongols, but at least they interacted with central and eastern European powers for a long period.
No indian or eastern campaigns for little Timur it seems heh

[poo_for_brains]

@ Damiekpe - no, I think here's right, America (not the Americas) is one big province.

A completely seperate map would have been ideal for the Americas. That one they've shown us is just plain ugly, its not like they've made places disproportionally sized for gameplay reasons (like the giant Europe in the board game Axis&Allies to fit in more provinces in the important areas). I mean, America (as in US not Americas) is one giant province. Why?

Although all this is disappointing, its not the biggest deal in the world, is it? It will soon be fixed by the modders; MA and MTR aren't including the Americas. And someone will probably come up with a quick-fix map in a week or two of the games release, so its really not a big problem.

Oh. My bad. Misunderstood the question. Sorry.

[Ignoramus]

Look, this is just a rehash of the original Medieval Map. All they have done is just add a few extra provinces.

[Darth Nihilus]

I second that they should have the America's on a second map. I live in Michigan and maybe one of these days I'll travel down south to Scotland for vacation (yes, that was pure sacarsm).

[Hepcat]

Although I like the feel of a realistic game, I am not too bothered by America being deformed, there will no doubt be mods which repair this, the main thing I am looking forward to is the battle mode.

[Tw-Turkiye]

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[WarMachine420]

I never thought much of the New World attachment to a Mediaeval game and nothing has changed, I still don't like it. If it was an expansion, fair enough I suppose but I fail to see the point of adding this when making different starting eras would have been a far better option

......Orda

Because the discovery of the New World was one of, if not THE biggest events in the history of mankind. What did you want them to do...include when someone founded the compass but not the discovery of the New World?

idea= don't conquer the new world. pretend it's not there. Voila!!! no more problems


As for starting times...that has nothing to do with this...by the time you got to the late era you would encounter the discovery of the new world. Again, what are they supposed to do...just pretend it didn't happen? Make a game covering the whole of the medieval times era and not include the largest event of the last chapter? How would that be better than this? ...you fight native american guerillas now after you conquer europe over hundreds of years. You fight it out alongside rivals on the new land. How is this a bad thing? How is more, less?

[Laman]

Here is something I rather quickly drew. Since I didn't slow down to check things up whenever I was unsure of something it is not perfect. Not that good actually, needs a lot of work, but still better then the actual map.

[iraklaras]

Finally! I can conquer the New World!

[sunsmountain]

Look, this map was NOT created for (historical) accuracy, but was made to play a game.

So quit your whining: balkan's borders were always chaos, america was a new and exciting continent, and you don't want too many provinces since remember, you'll have to conquer them all (each time).
I do hope they bring era's back... Assuming this is the Early era, the top province in Russia would be Novgorod, otherwise Russia, according to MTW 1 anyway.

[4th Dimension]

Here is something I rather quickly drew. Since I didn't slow down to check things up whenever I was unsure of something it is not perfect. Not that good actually, needs a lot of work, but still better then the actual map.

One point. Why should Croatia be a faction and not Serbia?

[scotchedpommes]

One point. Why should Croatia be a faction and not Serbia?

The Serbian state there is Raška. Perhaps count Zeta with it. I would be much
happier to see it drawn along those lines. As the game map is, it seems there will
either be Croatia or Serbia.

[bozkirsovalyesi]

my recommendations maps:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=62945

[_Aetius_]

I think map is absolutely terrible, the size of the provinces and the number of rebel provinces is ridiculous, it also looks very weak on the number of factions. It seems entirely out of proportion.

[hoetje]

dude,this map has too much rebel provinces.
normally,France has almost entire france etc.
Maybe this map is fake?:P

[Vladimir]

Anyone have a list of cities or a map that shows them all?

[hoetje]

nope:(

[magnum]

Looks to me like they made the various regions of the Americas the size needed for gameplay purposes. Five regions (assuming Cuba is part of North America). Central America area split into 3 territories showing its importance in the 'discovery' of the new world. Weren't enough settlements in North America to justify multiple provinces. Each territory needs room to have a city/castle, resources and some maneuver room for armies. End up with the portions that they did. Then to fit it onto the edge of the map the moved stuff some. In short, Americas strike me simply as how they handled gameplay issues. I'm fine with that.

Looks like there's more to Africa than before, that it extends further south.

I'm assuming (big assumption here) that starting posistions are based partially on historical aspects, but also partially on gameplay issues. Otherwise there's several questionable starting territories on the map. And as far as additional territories goes, I'd rather they stay with the number they have currently and wait to see how that plays before saying I want more. I remember in RTW that several mods added more and it tended to throw off gameplay and balance. The really good moders worked hard to rebalnce things, otherwise additional territories just messes up the playability.

All in all, to me its just a map. Neither good nor bad, just a tool used in my conquest of the world!

[4th Dimension]

The Serbian state there is Raška. Perhaps count Zeta with it. I would be much
happier to see it drawn along those lines. As the game map is, it seems there will
either be Croatia or Serbia.

Yes, there is a province named Rashka, but he didn't underline it, nor did he put it into that box with other states that he would like to see in the game.

That's why I was asking.

[Laman]

Yes, there is a province named Rashka, but he didn't underline it, nor did he put it into that box with other states that he would like to see in the game.

That's why I was asking.

Size. If I had written which I had written in the box in a smaller style I would have gotten in them as well (as well as Obodrites, Lithuanians etc.)

[Monarch]

Look, this is just a rehash of the original Medieval Map. All they have done is just add a few extra provinces.

Shocking, since this is Medieval 2...I mean, be glad theres extra provinces...

[Ignoramus]

I think Navarre is included.

[lars573]

I think Navarre is included.

You think wrong. The colours are the same as Portugal. IE Navarre is held by Portugal in that screen.

[Pupil of History]

Would the map mean that any colored region would be a playable faction in both single player and multiplayer?

[Vladimir]

You think wrong. The colours are the same as Portugal. IE Navarre is held by Portugal in that screen.

So Portugal has Navarre while Aragon is rebel? I think not.