Quote Originally Posted by rotorgun
I haven't seen very much in the way of help coming from any Muslim communities in the United States or the United Kingdom. On the contrary, it seems that their is quite a bit of "Allah Aqbar" going on in many mosques any time that 9/11 is mentioned in sermons. What in the world is one to make of such an attitude? I guess I am just to overlook the fact that over 80% of Muslim s in those communities hate the west, and wish to see the restoration of the Caliphate. We might as well just start living in the middle ages again if that should ever happen. Trust such people indeed! I might as well invite a rapist to date my daughter or a thief to do my banking. Come on man! Are you really that naiive? Let's imagine that 9/11 happened in Austrailia. Do you think that the Australian people would have such restraint? Many of them understand exactly what it means to let a wolf in among your sheep. I doubt they would be so docile as you claim to be towards so dedicated an enemy.
That's quite a hysterical post for a member who is usually quite reasoned. The hyperbole makes me think it's a joke, but I'm not so sure without any smileys.

Where do you get the 80% figure? What do you mean by 'hating the west'? How many mosques and sermons do you actually attend? Restoration of the Caliphate - who by and where are the facts to substantiate?

Australian citizens were blown up in Bali.

You will never defeat extremists until you get the community they live amongst on your side. The best intelligence comes from that community. Muslims certainly help the UK intelligence services - I can't speak for the US - but they tend to be quiet about it for the same reasons that one tends not to shout about informing on the Mafia. Many other moderates who don't support terrorism tend not to inform because they fear being accused themselves by over-zealous officers. These are the people we need to be reassuring as Pape noted.

Solid human intelligence is worth any amount of electronic sifting of emails or whatever.

If you were making a joke by exaggeration, then forgive me.