Racial Profiling for Terrorists: Good or Bad?

[Horatius]

No you were in fact, blatantly calling the Ottomans "aggressors" for their attack on Russia, and then to circumvent the fact that with that logic, Britain and France were "aggressors", you went ahead and said that the Ottomans fought on the sides of the "aggressors". We all know of the "War Guilt Clause" in the infamous Treaty of Versailles. Doesn't make it the case...

Well if France sent a frigate to bombard Irish Cities when Ireland did nothing to France would that qualify as unprovoked agression? Would you at least concede that Germany's plan to invade Belgium was unprovoked agression?

By the way, I learned that World War I was started amidst great tensions. Countries had formed many secret alliances with each other since the end of the Franco-Prussian War. Then a member of the Serbian group "The Black Hand" assassinated the Austrian archduke. Austria invaded Serbia (with a push from Germany), which had a treaty with Russia, etc...

France was not yet involved untill the Kaiser formally declared war on France, and sent the bulk of his forces to invade Belgium and France, which is how Britain got involved, You also never answered why the extreme lateness of an Ottoman Declaration of War if it was just the Alliance working? The Ottomans just waited untill they thought it was clear Germany would win.

Prudent, as doing so otherwise would be slander...

So the answer would be yes?

I don't know, there seems to have been a common thread between each Prime Minister.

Would you mind reading the fake quotes part of my link then? The Majority of your quotes are not only FAKES but they come from Israel hating sources. Let us inspect some of your experts who provide the sources of your website for the quotes.

1. Noam Chomsky-You are bloody ignorant of what that man stands for and his politics if you for a second think he is a reliable source on anything Israel.

2. All of the Golda Mier Quotes are infact true, there was no Arab Peace Partner in 1969, the idea of a Palestinian People was extremely new Gaza was part of Egypt and the West Bank was part of Jordon prior to 1967.

3. Some are simply only part of the conversation to spin what was being talked about for example We walked outside,

Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!"
-- Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

I read that part the first time I saw it he was discussing a conversation he had during the 1948 Arab Israeli War, where the Arabs were trying to "Drive all the Jews into the sea".

Anyhoo, I advised you to look these quotes up in response to a statement about Arabs and Nazis or Arabs and genocide.

Yes statements I made and stand by in response to Tribesmen accusing Britain of commiting atrocities by fighting World War Two in North Africa, so are you standing by Tribesmen attacking us for refusing to allow the Nazis to march to the Suez Canal?

You certainly went out of your way to show that some Arabs supported Germany because of their perceived Zionist threat, but you failed to mention that many Arabs fought with the British. You tried to bring up historical anecdotes of Muslim atrocity but then marginalized the Arab/Islamic achievement. There certainly is one-sided-ness in this discussion.

Yes it is going out of your way to say who's side people were on in World War Two when that is the subject, note the sarcasm. Many Arabs fought against the British, it was not just in Iraq, but Haj Amin Al Hussienei ever heard of him? Most Muslims who fought fought on the Soviet Side so were anti-Nazi, however you are acting like expressing clear historical fact if a one sided propagandaising. You also purposely distorted what I first wrote. I first wrote many, however since you and a few others insist on debating that I have responded with historical facts, the leaders of Arab Nations and most Arab Public Opinion was with Germany. I would probably also get attacked for pointing out that untill the mid 1930s Iran's name was still Persia but the name was changed to the Persian word for Aryan. You also are way exxagerating accomplishments in Islam. What architectural innovations do we owe to the Arabs since you wanted to bring that up?

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Mutah was a pre-Tabuk skirmish. Mutah saw a scouting party of 3,000 men on the Muslim side, Tabuk saw a 30,000 man army.

Both happen to have been sheer agression motivated by Greed like Manzikert was, and the men Mohhamad sent on the Mutah expedition where not men that would be sent on a minor skirmish.

Yarmuk in 636 was the beginning of the Islamic conquests, into the Byzantine Empire. I think I have already mentioned this...

Yes so you now acknowledge who was attacking who right?

There are still a couple of conclusions I drew from the excerpts.

Firstly, I don't think any of the reviews of cities excluding Baghdad were "positive" and any but Constantinople were "negative". Indeed, Baghdad and Constantinople were the only cities that Benjamin described in detail in this excerpt, including the treatment of the Jews. The other places he mentioned had only concise summaries, not much more than the number of Jews who lived there.

There is more to his reviews, you only read a small excerp from each city. Antioch he reviewed in great detail since he was very surprised to see the Jews owning many of the ships and prospering through overseas trade.

Firstly, I don't think any of the reviews of cities excluding Baghdad were "positive" and any but Constantinople were "negative". Indeed, Baghdad and Constantinople were the only cities that Benjamin described in detail in this excerpt, including the treatment of the Jews. The other places he mentioned had only concise summaries, not much more than the number of Jews who lived there.

Secondly, the numbers of Jews living in the Muslim cities are much higher than in Christian cities. The contrast of Jewish population between Baghdad and Constantinople and Damascus and Tyre are quite noticable.

He gave negative reviews to Persian Cities as well as to Constantinople, and you are right there where more Jews living amongst the Muslims. HOwever he does record mistreatment of Jews by Muslim and Christian and there is almost no gap between the Persians and Byzantines, and the gap between Arabs and the Crusaders are larger but still not the vast difference that people like to think existed.