Help with Portuguese traders - religion

**Titan79** · 08-13-2006, 19:51

Hi all!

I'm a great fan of Shogun since its first version (2000). After 2 years, I've bought the Warlord Edition but noticed that there seems to be something weird with the arrival of foreign traders (Portuguese and Dutch: the Portuguese keep docking at my ports (as at other clans') many and many times, not once as it was in the original Shogun. Even worse, the Dutch doesn't seem to have any intention to land in Japan at all

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Last of all, the other clans seem very loath on accepting Christianity; or they accept it but then switch back to Buddhism in a great religious mess...

Is there a way to fix this? I enjoy the WE and would really like to play it again. I've read in the forum that someone wrote about a patch - but I guess CA didn't release it yet, right?

Please help if you have any clues! Thank you very much in advance!

**Drisos** · 08-14-2006, 07:49

Hmmm.. I know the dutch arrive quite some years later then the portugeze.. but if've you've played past 1560 and they're still not there it will indeed be a bug. I don't know the exact arrival date but it's not that late..

good luck!

**Titan79** · 08-15-2006, 19:40

Hi Drisos,

thanks for your answer. Indeed, as a matter of fact, the problem isn't as much related to the Dutch just as to the Portuguese: they keep landing and landing and landing, not only at my ports but even at those of the other clans' (in WE). I know for sure this is a bug because I've played for a long time "basic" Shogun and this never happened (they arrived, made their offer and went back, did one accept or reject the proposal).
This is very annoing even because the other clans don't seem willing to accept once and for all the new religion... they have a strange behavior I'm not able to describe in detail now but it's flawed, that's for sure.

Solutions...?

**Drisos** · 08-22-2006, 12:51

Very, very weird this is. As you explain it indeed it must be a bug. I have no clue to a solution though..

well.. at least you can play the mongol invasion campaign properly

**Titan79** · 08-22-2006, 23:24

This is not as fun as you seem to consider it. 50 Euro wasted because campaign isn't running as it should... thank you very much, Creative Assembly.

But I'll remember of it when I'm buying another CA title...

(I'm simply not buying any other CA game in my life...

)

**Drisos** · 08-23-2006, 06:09

Where did I say this was amusing? I don't think it is..

Did you really need 50 euro for this? .. I needed only 15 about 2 years ago.

.. Ok. I'll send a link of this page to someone who might know the solution. help is on it's way!

**Ninjak** · 09-12-2006, 12:55

Greetings. It’s been a while since I played this game but I also had this problem before. The deal with the Portuguese traders arriving from Moluccas, Macau, and Goa is that if you build a port in a province that is connected to the sea, and you have a few buildings built in that province, then the Portuguese will keep coming to your dojo/throne room. They’ll keep coming until you build the trading post for them or the building queue slot in that port province is all filled up with other buildings. Build only a few ports in your domain (i.e. 4 or 5 ports) in certain provinces where the Portuguese and Dutch traders are more likely to dock their ship for the first time like in the southern Sumatsu provinces or in province that have a rich sea port. That way the Portuguese will stop coming. Personally, I would just reject the proselytizing Catholic traders and wait for the industrious Protestants since English and Dutch traders are only interested in trade and commerce not converting the natives.

**Titan79** · 09-12-2006, 20:09

Useful clue, Ninjak, thanks!

I've always had exactly the problem you described (and, btw, I've always preferred the Dutch too, just as you do, since they don't want you to change your religious confession).

The problem on how to stop the "Portuguese-keep-landing bug"

,however, seems to be solved by the tip suggested by TogakureOjonin (say "accept" to their offer but without building any trading posts, nor churches: thus, no more dockings at my ports!). Thanks anyway - if the problem arises again I'll follow your advice!

**Titan79** · 10-01-2006, 20:41

I've just ended my 1530 campaign with Mori and everything went OK. Portuguese and Dutch arrived (although the Dutch landed much later than in the original Shogun TW - about 20 years after) and there were no strange religious behaviours from the Clans... so thank you all for the clues!