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    The votes have been tallied, the awards prepared, the hare has been gutted (sorry all you rabbit fans)...

    ...and the winner is...

    SNITE!

    ...for his excellent work "Redemption", which you can still read right here. All other contest entries are
    still available here as well.

    This was a very close contest with all stories nearly even in the voting. Snite won on away goals, as it were

    A big thanks to all the heretics who submitted stories, and all the inquisitors who voted for them!
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    oh, and the story submission thread has been opened, just in case anyone had comments to post on the stories themselves.
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    Great work SNITE. You had my vote.
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    Mine too. Good work.
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    Thank you


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    I voted Mitchell.
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    Congratulations!
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    Hey, can you dig it? This competition was made for me to win? Something went terrible wrong!!

    At least I voted for the winner. Congratulations!



    Can we see the final results and a who wrote what list?

    How far did my story made it?

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    Congratulations to the winner! And also to the one who wrote "To be heard" .
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    Can we see the final results and a who wrote what list?
    After getting one PM from an author who was, sad to say, embarrassed by his effort and wishes to remain anonymous ... anyone else? I will, perhaps unfairly, post the author list in a couple of hours and hope that everyone who needed to see this request has seen it.
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    Congratulations Snite! And my compliments to the writer of "To be Heard" as well.

    To all other writers, thank you for participating!
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    Thank you Ludens and Stephen Asen. I knew I wasn't going to win, but it didn't matter to me.

    As for the revealing of the authors, it's fine by me. Also the voting results?
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    Can no one see the poll results? TosaInu said that any logged in member should see the poll results. At any rate...

    AUTHORS and TOTAL VOTES

    To be heard - Warmaster Horus - 4 votes
    Tuesday - 0 votes
    Blood and Roses - Agent Miles - 0 votes
    Redemption - Snite - 4 votes
    The Weapon - Franconicus - 1 vote
    The Emperor - Stephen Asen - 0 votes
    Mitchell - Beirut - 3 votes
    The Heretic Ship - Crazed Rabbit - 2 votes

    As you can see, To be heard and Redemption had equal vote counts. However, because of the weighting scheme, Redemption won because it received the most author votes of any story (thus the away goals comment).

    And, as you can also see, the popular vote was *cough* a tad low. Time to tell your friends and family about the Mead Hall!
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    How's about another one?
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    Seems we were neck-and-neck there Horus. Too bad. We coulda done a tie-breaker.


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    Wow, congrats to the winners, excellent stuff! I found out about this too late, any chance of another contest starting up with a new topic?


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    Hi hi,

    For those interested in another contest, I'm sure we can run another one sometime in the near future. It might not be next week but the next one has been discussed already to a small extent.

    Meanwhile, as someone else has said, be well, do good work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamur
    Can no one see the poll results? TosaInu said that any logged in member should see the poll results. At any rate...

    AUTHORS and TOTAL VOTES

    To be heard - Warmaster Horus - 4 votes
    Tuesday - 0 votes
    Blood and Roses - Agent Miles - 0 votes
    Redemption - Snite - 4 votes
    The Weapon - Franconicus - 1 vote
    The Emperor - Stephen Asen - 0 votes
    Mitchell - Beirut - 3 votes
    The Heretic Ship - Crazed Rabbit - 2 votes
    One vote? Guess it is time to look for a different hobby!

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    Actually, I enjoyed reading everyone's story. You can only vote once. People who don't write, because they're afraid of rejection or don't vote because they don't want to express an opinion are the losers. So don't throw your keyboard out yet.
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    Congrats to the winner and to all participants

    And thank you Crazed Rabbit for a nice read. I really enjoyed "The Heretic Ship". And I love steak
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    Cheer up, Franconicus! At least you have 1 vote... Am i expected to commit a suicide with 0 votes... Well, it's a cliche and stupid... I prefer to be stab by angered reader...using a dagger, if possible... I do not like being shot (esp. with a cannon), torn into pieces ( not very healthy), decapitated using ax (risky; the executor may happen awkaward)... Sword, no thank you, it is too chivalric for me. So please use dagger.

    Until then, I will continue to try writing something that is supposed to be a story...

    Anyway, joking aside, I am in surprisingly good mood for a loser ... One seat for the next contest is reserved!
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    So don't throw your keyboard out yet.
    No indeed. Just remember the many (many many) stories of authors who are famous now but had rejection after rejection before the one break-through. Ora et labora.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Asen
    ... Anyway, joking aside, I am in surprisingly good mood for a loser ...
    Well, I feel amazingly good, too:

    The eagle picks my eye
    The worm he licks my bone
    I feel so suicidal
    Just like Dylan's Mr. Jones
    Lonely wanna die
    If I ain't dead already
    Ooh, girl you know the reason why

    The black cloud crossed my mind
    Blue mist round my soul
    Feel so suicidal
    Even hate my rock and roll wanna die
    Yeah, wanna die
    If I ain't dead already
    Ooh, girl you know the reason why


    Unfortunately, these words are not from me. Who knows the poet?

    By the way, I urgendly need feedback! I must know what I could do better! Please! Don't let me down!

    P.S.: Nice words and sympathy are not welcome!

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    hi Franconicus,

    A couple of comments...

    First, when the main character has no name, it acts as a wall between the reader and the character. There are stories that work when you do this, and times when no name is a good thing for a character. But it's very rare, and extremely difficult to make your readers care about the unnamed character.

    Which leads to the other comment I have. I personally have no sympathy for either character in this story -- and therefore the tension in the meeting is mostly lost. The only point at which I worry is when the gun is pulled out and laid on the desk. I feel something then because I've had a gun pulled out and pointed at me, and I know how that feels.

    So, my suggestions would be to include at least one scene -- in story time or remembered -- that makes the main character into a person that the reader can care about... something that makes him "human". And give him a name.

    There are a few word choices that seem odd, but I think those don't matter too much if the main character is someone that readers are concerned about.

    Hope this helps,
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    Last edited by Tamur; 04-23-2007 at 19:27.
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    Hi Tamur,

    Thank you very much for your comments. I hope they will help; at least they made me wondering.

    Regarding the name – you are probably right. I think one of my main weaknesses in all my stories is the missing depth of my characters. I will work on that.

    In this story, my focus was in creating the tension, increasing as the stranger passes the way from the river, through the crowd, to the building, in the corridor and finally to the room of the Inquisitor. I thought that a stranger without a name would create more mystery, being more sinister. Maybe this was wrong. It also makes it more difficult to write about persons without names.

    I hoped the thoughts of the stranger and his impressions could transfer his feelings to the reader and create a bond. Obviously it didn’t.

    Of course it is a problem that the stranger is not a positive character, this makes it hard to have sympathy with him. I always feel attracted by those dark characters (sigh).

    So thanks again. Your comments are very welcome.

    By the way, what is that story with the gun pointing at you?

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    hi Franc, I'm glad the comments were somewhat helpful. I did want to add but never got time yesterday --- I think you do a great job of setting up the environment surrounding the characters. The isolation the main character experiences shows through superbly.

    By the way, what is that story with the gun pointing at you?
    Someday I should write that up, quite the experience. Basically I was held hostage for half an hour by a drug dealer who mistook me for someone who was delivering cocaine to him... and with a pistol pointed at my head the entire time. Happily for me, he didn't pull the trigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamur
    Happily for me, he didn't pull the trigger.
    I am glad he didn't!

    By the way, a loaded gun was pointed at me once too. However, not so dangerously by far!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning
    Congrats to the winner and to all participants

    And thank you Crazed Rabbit for a nice read. I really enjoyed "The Heretic Ship". And I love steak
    Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.

    Interesting story about that ...er...story. It was Monday afternoon of the deadline when I started, took about 5 hours total including revisions and cutting it down to size (the end product was 1,500 words, and I had to cut out completely my favorite character), though I had the idea for a couple of weeks before. Okay, not so interesting. But I wanted to do something out of the ordinary for a heresy theme, and I figured a vegan autocracy ruling the solar system would do that.

    My two favorites (besides my own baby) were Mitchell and Tuesday (did you write that Tamur?) (though I also forgot to vote - do'h! - not that it would have mattered).

    I'll admit I'm not real big on the whole 'those evil inquisitions and Catholics', being a Catholic and all.

    Anyone else have critiques or comments on The Heretic Ship?

    CR
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    But I wanted to do something out of the ordinary for a heresy theme, and I figured a vegan autocracy ruling the solar system would do that.
    You certainly succeeded in that... I had to read it more than a couple of times to "really understand" it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.

    Interesting story about that ...er...story. It was Monday afternoon of the deadline when I started, took about 5 hours total including revisions and cutting it down to size (the end product was 1,500 words, and I had to cut out completely my favorite character), though I had the idea for a couple of weeks before. Okay, not so interesting. But I wanted to do something out of the ordinary for a heresy theme, and I figured a vegan autocracy ruling the solar system would do that.

    My two favorites (besides my own baby) were Mitchell and Tuesday (did you write that Tamur?) (though I also forgot to vote - do'h! - not that it would have mattered).

    I'll admit I'm not real big on the whole 'those evil inquisitions and Catholics', being a Catholic and all.

    Anyone else have critiques or comments on The Heretic Ship?

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    Hmmm, this explains many things. To tell you the truth, you presented too weird world for my aristocratic conservatism . Somehow, it lacked any logic. True, I caught it was about the vegans... but the story was somehow chaotic (what is called too many new things syndrome; but I think I also suffer from this disease) and the effect you aimed did not work. Another criticism: " A" and " B " plan. "A" plan was good and made me smile but "B" lacked any originality. At this moment, I am almost sure, you are cursing at me... Yet, the fact you've cut much of your story and this is enough to explain why the story was not so good. The good side: I think the retrospection fit well in the story. I am sure there are other things you've done well and probably I've missed to say. Just in case be warned: I am of these nasty people who more criticise than praise.

    To sum up: Never do the things in the last possible moment!!!!!! And yet you got two votes, so no reason to despair but one more to work harder for the next contest!

    I hope I was helpful.

    P.S. Actually, you are free to hammer me for my story about the poor Emperor
    who never got even a vote.

    P.S.2 Wow, Tamur, Franconicus, that is called a real real-life problem! But fortuantely for the Mead Hall everything went well!
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