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Thread: German peacekeepers to Lebanon?
You could argue that one of the events that led to the foundation of the state of Israel was the Haulocaust so Germany might feel that wasn't entirely someone else's mess. (More so the UK which held Palestine after WWI)
Originally Posted by Duke of Gloucester:
You could argue that one of the events that led to the foundation of the state of Israel was the Haulocaust so Germany might feel that wasn't entirely someone else's mess. (More so the UK which held Palestine after WWI)
It stopped being our fault when they kicked us out so they could have their stupid war. If they wanted us out of there so they could kill each other, they shouldn't blame us for not being there to stop them killing each other.You could argue that one of the events that led to the foundation of the state of Israel was the Haulocaust so Germany might feel that wasn't entirely someone else's mess. (More so the UK which held Palestine after WWI)
Armed peacekeepers. That sounds wierd in a certain way...
reminds me of someone's msn link: "fighting for peace is like (edited for language by Ser Clegane) for virginity."
reminds me of someone's msn link: "fighting for peace is like (edited for language by Ser Clegane) for virginity."
I think that they should send in troops since most other European countries are.
Germans shouldn't feel duty bound out of guilt of the holocaust, just as they shouldn't be helping Britain out with her problems out of guilt for the war. It is over now and there is a new generation of Germans, they had the war crimes trials in the 1940s, it should no longer be affecting their international policy.
Germans shouldn't feel duty bound out of guilt of the holocaust, just as they shouldn't be helping Britain out with her problems out of guilt for the war. It is over now and there is a new generation of Germans, they had the war crimes trials in the 1940s, it should no longer be affecting their international policy.
In reality I can think of no reason why Germany should not send peace keepers. You aren't responsible for what your grandparents did. We shouldn't even be disscussing this.
In this Germany should be no different than any other country.
In this Germany should be no different than any other country.
Originally Posted by Wigferth Ironwall:
In reality I can think of no reason why Germany should not send peace keepers. You aren't responsible for what your grandparents did. We shouldn't even be disscussing this.
In this Germany should be no different than any other country.
Agreed.In reality I can think of no reason why Germany should not send peace keepers. You aren't responsible for what your grandparents did. We shouldn't even be disscussing this.
In this Germany should be no different than any other country.
*thinks* I can't believe I had to type that much to make a point this one made in four short sentences */thinking*
Originally Posted by Wigferth Ironwall:
In reality I can think of no reason why Germany should not send peace keepers. You aren't responsible for what your grandparents did. We shouldn't even be disscussing this.
In this Germany should be no different than any other country.
Merkel doesn't think so. In the recent crisis, Merkel asked Britain and France to do the talking for Europe as she felt Germany, with its history, could not ask anything of Israel.In reality I can think of no reason why Germany should not send peace keepers. You aren't responsible for what your grandparents did. We shouldn't even be disscussing this.
In this Germany should be no different than any other country.
Nobody should send any peacekeepers. Olmert should have continued with the fight without one hand tied behind his back. Israel can never expect to win the propoganda war, so it should only worry about military victory. They should have destroyed Hizbullah.
But since that is no longer reality, and a peacekeeping force is imminent, then Germany should participate. They have big opinions but never take action. One thing that should be a worry: Hizbullah will likely dress as Israeli forces and attack German troops in order to cause the kind of worry being discussed here. But in reality, Israel is NEVER going to attack UN troops. It would be on the European s*** list even more than it is now. Even I, a staunch supporter of Israel, would raise an eyebrow if they started attacking an international body. It simply wouldn't happen. Hizbullah, on the other hand, could do anything it wants and just show some Shiite lady wailing to the sky over the loss of her home and be off the hook.
But since that is no longer reality, and a peacekeeping force is imminent, then Germany should participate. They have big opinions but never take action. One thing that should be a worry: Hizbullah will likely dress as Israeli forces and attack German troops in order to cause the kind of worry being discussed here. But in reality, Israel is NEVER going to attack UN troops. It would be on the European s*** list even more than it is now. Even I, a staunch supporter of Israel, would raise an eyebrow if they started attacking an international body. It simply wouldn't happen. Hizbullah, on the other hand, could do anything it wants and just show some Shiite lady wailing to the sky over the loss of her home and be off the hook.
Germany needs to get over it. It was over 50 years ago under a different regieme. It's not like they were the only anti-semites in Europe.
Contrast with Israel's attitude that they seem to view killing others to be their God given right and get quite tetchy when anyone should dare question unilateral illegal operations.
IF peacekeepers go in they need to be armed to the extent that they can see off the IDF is required. "Stop" only works if 5 mins later there's a smart bomb fishtailing onto the IDF position. They've killed 4 UN peacekeepers, and IMO that should mean zero tolerance to any more "accidents"...
Contrast with Israel's attitude that they seem to view killing others to be their God given right and get quite tetchy when anyone should dare question unilateral illegal operations.
IF peacekeepers go in they need to be armed to the extent that they can see off the IDF is required. "Stop" only works if 5 mins later there's a smart bomb fishtailing onto the IDF position. They've killed 4 UN peacekeepers, and IMO that should mean zero tolerance to any more "accidents"...
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