Note on whinging

[Ser Clegane]

You just dont get it. STW and MTW were "immensely entertaining". RTW was not. While I agree with your comment by Koster and "the sense of fun of discovering something new", I'd point out that it doesnt mean that the games are "doomed" to decline. CIV4 is arguably the best version of the game.

The issue is that these are things that very much depend on personal taste - I see that a lot of patrons actually do consider RTW to be "immensely entertaining" (personally I enjoyed M:TW more, but that has various reasons), while others disagree - perhaps their criteria regarding what qualifies as "immensely entertaining" simply differ.

The same is the case for Civ IV. Personally I think it is a great game and I have a lot of fun with it, however, this thread shows that a lot of people disagree.