17th century

[Kagemusha]

Maybe it is the government of Spain that needs to upgrade their maps.Now how many centuries have Italians possessed these lands and how many Italians live there? Also are the Greeks less Christian either.We find it intresting that the so called defender of true faith is willing to give christian land to muslims so easily. We wonder how pope feels about that?

Republic of Netherlands

[SwordsMaster]

Well, since the Greeks are under the influence of the Patriarch and not the Pope I don't see how His Holiness will be bothered since they are going to hell anyway. Besides, for a Protestant rebel who has been preaching against the True Religion, the Stadtholder's interest is wildly extravagant.

The Ottoman Empire is not an ally of Spain, but merely using venetian weakness to get hold of the positions the Sultan deems interesting. Since Spain and Venice are at war, HMCIM did not deem necessary to protect venetian interests. Perhaps the Stadtholder will defend Venice and bring war to the Sultan?

Or will the dutch pirates be content with raiding spanish vessels?

[Kagemusha]

Oh.Now we are rebels and pirates. The thing is some of us live in a new world where christian is a christian like here in Netherlands,where we have freedom of religion,then some of us live in medieval world like the Spain,who think that all progress is from Satan.
We see this affair just as another thing that makes the Empire of Spain as hypocrites. Couple years back you were fighting alongside the Greeks against Ottomans and talking how you would free them from tyranny of Ottomans and now you are condemning them to hell and sharing their lands with Ottomans.

Republic of Netherlands

[SwordsMaster]

Oh.Now we are rebels and pirates. The thing is some of us live in a new world where christian is a christian like here in Netherlands,where we have freedom of religion,then some of us live in medieval world like the Spain,who think that all progress is from Satan.
We see this affair just as another thing that makes the Empire of Spain as hypocrites. Couple years back you were fighting alongside the Greeks against Ottomans and talking how you would free them from tyranny of Ottomans and now you are condemning them to hell and sharing their lands with Ottomans.

Republic of Netherlands

Again, stadtholde, I have not allied with the Ottomans. We merely coincided on the same enemy.

Who are you to judge me anyway? You got what you wanted with the southern Netherlands and yet you still brought war on me. Who is a hypocrite? You just wanted war, no matter what.

[IrishArmenian]

Mikhail Romanov will probably work out well. You would have a lot of influence, and as long as your suggestions aren't too much contrary to the will of the other boyars, your decisions will most likely be what in the end happens.

Will of other Boyars meaning...what?
The last time I (as a player) knew the will of the Boyars was when they wanted Vasili dead.

[Randarkmaan]

Who are you to judge me anyway? You got what you wanted with the southern Netherlands and yet you still brought war on me. Who is a hypocrite? You just wanted war, no matter what.

"Poor is only he who desires more" Do you not think?

[Rodion Romanovich]

Will of other Boyars meaning...what?
The last time I (as a player) knew the will of the Boyars was when they wanted Vasili dead.

Vassili was a Tsar without support from the boyars already from the beginning, which made him a difficult character. Romanov is a boyar. "Will of the boyars" means, in principle, that if you don't suggest things intending to hurt the other boyars, they will agree to what you suggest. If you do things that will hurt them, they will be likely to try and stop you, unless you do it in a clever way, playing the other boyars against each other and making sure to have the support of a clear majority of the boyars. As a boyar you will also have better information about what the other boyars want, making it easier to not upset them.

[Rodion Romanovich]

From The Papacy:

The Papacy wishes to announce the completion of Saint Peter's Basilica in Rome. The Holy Father invites all Catholic Kings to visit the opening ceremonial, which will take place in the 29th of June this year, in memory of the death of St Peter, the first of the Holy Fathers. These are times of both great dangers, and great hopes for the future. The Heathen Turk has been defeated at Vienna, but we have seen how internal strife can open the gates to our cities for the enemy to conquer, if only briefly. But there has also been demonstrations of what unity can do to the enemies of the Lord, as in the liberation of Vienna, and the defeat of both the Heathen Turk, and the schismatic Protestants who tried to invade the Holy Roman Empire but were defeated by the German and Spanish armies near the Great Cathedral in Wittstock. The Holy Father will hold a prayer for the peace and unity of those who are still fighting the sin and schism, and are truly striving for the kingdom of heaven.

[Kagemusha]

Again, stadtholde, I have not allied with the Ottomans. We merely coincided on the same enemy.

Who are you to judge me anyway? You got what you wanted with the southern Netherlands and yet you still brought war on me. Who is a hypocrite? You just wanted war, no matter what.

War is continuation of politics. We dont understand the Spanish emperors accusations about us wanting a war and asking for somekind of chivalrous reasons for it. If you are hostile towards our allies and hostile about the values we have,then ofcourse we are hostile towards you. How could we have stood by with our allies and see you take over the world,while we know that what we present with our tolerance towards religions and individual freedom of men means herecy and treason to you.
You are right about that this discussion is fruitless. Our two set of worlds are just too much apart from each other.
Do you really think that you solve the schism of Church for example by killing all the protestants? It is simply not possible.You cant turn back the tide which is rising through Europe and go back to middle ages. Times are changing no matter how much you dislike it.

Republic of Netherlands

[Incongruous]

How rich coming from a man whom has lost the war.

[Kagemusha]

Or so the Kaiser thinks. War is lost when one side wins.When one side have been utterly defeated or sues for peace.We havent seen any indications about that.All we have seen is numerous battles,some won by the other side,some by the other. Many of our forces havent even yet engaged your forces and you are declaring victory. Well there is no doubt that the future will show how it will turn out.

[Lord Winter]

Sweden is curoious about the germens offer, What would you accpet.

[Warluster]

King of Sweden,

We have already asked the German Emperor on his peace offers, and it seems they are nothing more then being kill or tortured.

[CountArach]

Would I be able to join? I know it has been running for a long time, but is there still space?

Also which nations are up for grabs?

[Csargo]

Would I be able to join? I know it has been running for a long time, but is there still space?

Also which nations are up for grabs?

There's a list afaik and I should be first on it.

[Tran]

No space for outlanders! Wait, I spot a tiny place called 'St. Helena'...if you are hungry for power...

[Warluster]

No Ca, there is no room for now, and quite a waiting list by the sounds of it.

But if you do get in some time, remember GO BRANDENBURG!

[Incongruous]

Sweden is curoious about the germens offer, What would you accpet.

Brandenbourg came to us without you're knowledge ready to turn in youre cause, until they realised the stupidity of their terms. But for you most noble king of Sweden, a simple peace treaty, in which you return all lands taken, denounce Brandenbourg and leave for home should suffice. We understand that you had only honourable intent, unlike youre allies.

[Rodion Romanovich]

The queue is now: Ichigo, Patriarch of Constantinople, AntiochusIII, Grand Lord of Poop~, Frederick_I_Barbarossa, CountArach

In fact, since Venice just dropped out, there's a spot for you now Ichigo, if you wish to join.

[Randarkmaan]

Play Persia, then I can crush you!

[SwordsMaster]

Brandenbourg came to us without you're knowledge ready to turn in youre cause, until they realised the stupidity of their terms. But for you most noble king of Sweden, a simple peace treaty, in which you return all lands taken, denounce Brandenbourg and leave for home should suffice. We understand that you had only honourable intent, unlike youre allies.

Is the HRE Emperor negotiating a separate peace treaty? I believe Spain should have a say in the matter, after all the grievances that Sweden has cost the Spanish army.

OOC: PM, guys, PM peace treaties.

[IrishArmenian]

King of Spain, this is the Kaiser's war, not yours.

[Franconicus]

DECRETS ROYALS

From this day on, only official mean of payment is the “Louis D’Or”. Fakers will be sentenced to death.

There is an import tax on uncoined gold and silver of 20% and on coined gold and silver of 10%. Smugglers will be sentenced to the penal colony.

The Royal Intendant of Public Health will make a list of deseases to report. Every subject, that has one of those, has to be kept in quarantine.

The troops that control the traffic across the borders and at the harbors will reject any person, that wants to enter the Kingdom with one of those deseases.

Local authorities are requested to block out any region, where an epdemy is found. The national borders can be closed in case of an epedemy abroad.

Local authorities can use the National Guard to enforce these measures.

Charity; All French Christians that are in material need without blame will receive support. This support is funded by the King and the Christian churches equally.
All other religions are invited to make a similar arrangement with the King.

[Franconicus]

We are pleased to announce that Descartes is the new head of the Academie Royale and the Sarbonne. We are also please that Galileo and Hobbes accepted a professorship at the Sarbonne as well as a membership at the Academie.

DECLARATION

The French King has send orders to the army and the navy to enforce the rights of French merchants at the Mediterranean Sea.

[Incongruous]

On this day when we recognise our resounding victory over the Protestant invaders The Kaiser announces the officla first session of the New Parliament in Vienna, the Kaiser expects that the Upper house shall vote to enter a motion to Annex Brandenbourg and offer peace to Sweden. We also wish to allow special seats to five French and Five Spanish diplomats to sit in the Upper house and see our new way of thinking. We also hearby grant the French and Spanish governments to build as they like new International Houses in Vienna where a sociaty of their diplomatic sector shall thrive to improve realtions between our nations.

Kaiser Ferdinand.

[Franconicus]

The French King is please to congratulate the Kaiser of Germany. We are glad that he managed restore order. We are also pleased to see that the Kaiser is willing to enter a new era of cooperation. We happily accept His offers.

Louis XIII.

[Incongruous]

We thank the French king for his kindness. We wish to inform him that the first session shall begin as son as his diplomats arrive.

The Kaiser offers a final ultimatum to Brandenbourg.
Send word of youre acceptance of utter defaet and annexation into Germany. If you do not we shall prosecute tis war to it's bloody end.
We ask you to see reason.

Kaiser Ferdinand

The Kaiser also announce the craetion of his new Official crown, to show the full extent of the depature from the title of Holy Roman Emperor.http://www.khm.at/data/page481/kronerudolf250.jpg

[Kagemusha]

We find the Kaiser´s statements laughable. You announce victory when you havent made peace with the protestant coalition and your armies will be soon crushed.

Republic of Netherlands

[Rodion Romanovich]

From Danish ambassadors:

The Danish commanders in the Holy Roman Empire announce that Danish troops in the defensive war against the Kaiser have lost only 950 men, while killing over 12,000 troops for the Kaiser and the Spanish king. The Danish king also wishes to announce that the Danish forces in the Holy Roman empire will be increased by several tens of thousands by this summer, to support the Swedish king in dealing a final, decisive blow to the exhausted and demoralized army of the Kaiser, so that he will recall his unprovoked declaration of war against our allies the Netherlands.

[Rodion Romanovich]

Clarification:

Since I got a question about it, I'd like to point out that the casualty figures given in public announcements aren't to be considered reliable sources of information.