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    Here's one for all the family - a real life example of the Leprechaun conundrum:

    Filipino 'dwarf' judge loses case

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    A Philippines judge who said he consulted imaginary mystic dwarves has failed to convince the Supreme Court to allow him to keep his job.
    Florentino Floro was appealing against a three-year inquiry which led to his removal due to incompetence and bias.

    He told investigators three mystic dwarves - Armand, Luis and Angel - had helped him to carry out healing sessions during breaks in his chambers.

    The court said psychic phenomena had no place in the judiciary.

    The bench backed a medical finding that the judge was suffering from psychosis.

    'Dwarf dalliance'

    The Manila trial judge had asked the Supreme Court to dismiss the complaint and return him to the bench, after being sacked in April.

    "They should not have dismissed me for what I believed," Mr Floro told reporters after filing his appeal in May.

    The judge said he had made a covenant with his dwarf friends that he could write while in a trance and that he had been seen by several people in two places at the same time.

    Judge Floro reportedly changed from blue court robes to black each Friday "to recharge his psychic powers".

    In a letter to the court he said: "From obscurity, my name and the three mystic dwarves became immortal."

    However, the Supreme Court said dalliance with dwarves would gradually erode the public's acceptance of the judiciary as the guardian of the law, if not make it an object of ridicule.


    Now, can the theologians amongst us explain to this simple soul why Judge Floro gets canned for believing in dwarven advisors, whereas if he expressed the belief that his god guided his decisions, he would no doubt be destined for the Supreme Court.

    Like many other parts of the world, Filipino courts require one to swear on a holy book to one's god that testimony given will be truthful. How is the validity of that unprovable, supernatural superstition stronger than the dwarves of law? Is it weight of numbers - ie because x number of people believe in y, it holds moral authority over z? Or length of tradition?

    I am genuinely intrigued.

    *having lit the blue touch paper, stands well back*

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    No. Not yet.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    To be sure, a puzzlement it is.
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    Default Re: It's a puzzlement

    I thought that it was the title.

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    It is probably because we don’t know which kind of dwarves he spoke to. The deep Dwarves who don’t believed that humans exit, of the one who mixed with us… Dwarves coming from Thub (Terry Pratchet) or from the Lord of the Rings?
    No theological explanation(s) can be given without the book (preferably holy) of reference…
    Last edited by Brenus; 08-18-2006 at 23:44.
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    Default Re: It's a puzzlement

    Every fool knows that dwarves are evil (not to mention smelly, rude and generally obnocious), so I support their decision.
    Last edited by Kralizec; 08-18-2006 at 20:52.

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    All about the majority. If the majority beleeved in mystic dwarves than he would be headed for power. Sadly for him, they do not. Simpel as that.

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    Banquo - try more expensive bait.

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    How did he get to be a judge in the first place if mystic dwarves were making all his decisions for him?

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    We all have a little dwarf telling us what to do all the time. The bigger the dwarf the better.

    No wonder the other judge needed a dwarf pump.

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    I hope your not implying what I think you are implying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
    We all have a little dwarf telling us what to do all the time. The bigger the dwarf the better.
    The voices in my head that make my decisions decided (nearly unanimously) that they are not, in fact, dwarves ... so, not all of us, no.

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    It would help if the thread-starter, our fine ghost, had used an appropriate title. In fact, I only checked the thread because it was started by B's Ghost. Had it been a less entertaining or less respected member, I would have skipped it entirely.

    As for the Tpoic:What about Justices who "Consult with Jesus"? Is it any less ridiculous to worship a pagan "human manifestation" of God?

    Dwarves, Jesus, ghosts, ancestors, bleh. It's all the same to me.
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    Amazing. Besides, it doesn't matter where it is that he finds the wisdom to make decisions, it only matters that he can make sound decisions. Then again, it's not my job, so fire away.

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    Default Re: It's a puzzlement

    Quote Originally Posted by Eclectic
    It would help if the thread-starter, our fine ghost, had used an appropriate title.
    You're right of course. I was in a lighthearted mood, and used the phrase oft exclaimed by the King of Siam in the 'King and I' when confronted by a cultural oddity. I should have been more descriptive with the title.

    However, I didn't really expect the thread to go anywhere. I guess I had faintly hoped I might generate a good-natured discussion on why one person's supernatural advisor is a psychosis, whereas someone else's confers standing and trust. But I guess the Backroom is in holiday mood or something - not even Tribe' could get a full-on frothing thread going this weekend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eclectic
    Dwarves, Jesus, ghosts, ancestors, bleh. It's all the same to me.
    However, with your response, you rather finished off the thread. To me, your arguments on behalf of your eclectic faith have always been compelling, the moreso because you don't evangelise, and you pretty much knocked any weak attempt on my behalf for controversy into a cocked hat.

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