Oda Campaign (Help!)

[Sasaki Kojiro]

With archers in mino and owari you should be invincible.

[phred]

With archers in mino and owari you should be invincible.

Likewise with musketeers. Take advantage (if you haven't already) of the bonuses you get for training ashigarus. They're cheap and with a little valor they do OK. Combine yari ashis with musketeers once you can access firearms and you'll have a powerful but cheap army.

[Scurvy]

thanks for input - i fought a huge battle vs hojo when my dirt cheap ashigarus routed them and they seem much less dangerous now....although havnt gone awway completely... likewise i have had a few defensive battles with rebels and despite losing a good general have held fairly well (thanks for advice about archers, they are soo good compared to mtw) the muskateers are useful but i think i prefer using the archers (they seem more effective)

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Muskets are most usefull on bridge maps and flat maps. Both are rather rare in the campaign game.

[Drisos]

The Oda has excellent defendable regions iirc. Use lots of archers, backed up with a few yari samurai, if you don't have the money, ashigaru. if you get to a later stage of the game, muskets are indeed very, useful. it's easy defeat hundreds of enemies by defending rivers with them. if your border has no rivers, plant an emissary in hojo's HQ, Shimosa, and attack them by sea. If you take 8 muskets, 6 yari samurai and 2 cavalry there you'd be able to kill thousands of the hojo army.

I'd say, use your emissary to bribe the more advanced rebel armies. defeat the ashigaru armies. Once you have kawachi, tamba and wakasa, start fighting the hojo, preferably by sea, if they are already close by land. or of course, if not the hojo but the uesugi or takeda have gotten the upper hand, fight them.

btw, you can make screenshots with F2 as well iirc. they will appear in the folder 'tgas' in you shogun main folder. however you need a program like 'irfanview' to convert these to .jpg pictures, so you can post them.

[phred]

Muskets are most usefull on bridge maps and flat maps. Both are rather rare in the campaign game.

That's true. In my last Oda campaign I used armies that were mostly muskets and yari ashigarus. Those armies were great when I was on the defensive but they were poor when attacking. I won most of my battles, but when I lost, I lost badly.