Ok I think you've nearly convinced me. Just a few more questions. How do you know so much about this card? I've looked for reviews everywhere and I can't find a thing? Secondly, why is it called Winfast? An d finally is the fan any good? It looks noisy, ugly, and it chucks all the hot air back into the case. The x850 pro has a nice big fan that exhausts it all out the back (suuposedly). Or is the fan not the important issue here?