The Emperor has married a horse.

[Olaf The Great]

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/reviews/12...City_Rome.html

It seems to be a neat game, but I probably won't buy it, I like RTW too much.

...Where did the "Married a horse" thing come from

[macsen rufus]

Caligula made his horse his consort and IIRC a senator.

Also Celtic kings married horses (probably dating well back into IE pre-history, too) as the horse was a personification of the land, ie King and Land are wedded. More disturbingly, perhaps, the wedding had to be consummated in front of the rest of the tribe.

Caligula was just nuts, though....

[eadingas]

So... basically it's Caesar 4 ?

[Olaf The Great]

Caligula made his horse his consort and IIRC a senator.

Also Celtic kings married horses (probably dating well back into IE pre-history, too) as the horse was a personification of the land, ie King and Land are wedded. More disturbingly, perhaps, the wedding had to be consummated in front of the rest of the tribe.

Caligula was just nuts, though....

Lol He was nuts.
Why were the first few emperors all corrupt decadent flim flams?

[eadingas]

Lol He was nuts.
Why were the first few emperors all corrupt decadent flim flams?

The first few? They were all nuts, with few exceptions :)
There were some heavily distorted genes in the Julio-Claudian family ;)

[Olaf The Great]

The first few? They were all nuts, with few exceptions :)
There were some heavily distorted genes in the Julio-Claudian family ;)

Well everyone between Augustus and the Emperors after and during the conquest of Britannia we're insane.

....What the heck is a "flim flam"

[Cozur]

this is CivCity Rome
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/...me/review.html

it sucks

This is Caesar IV
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/...?q=caesar%20iv

its going to roxx!

[eadingas]

Oh cool. I liked Caesar series.

[Jarardo]

Yeah Civ city rome sucks, I have it. I'm looking forward to Ceasar 4 though.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Well everyone between Augustus and the Emperors after and during the conquest of Britannia we're insane.

....What the heck is a "flim flam"

Tiberius and Claudius were both fine. There is some evidence that Claudius didn't actually intend Nero to succeed him but that he was murdered before he could prclaim Britanicus. Ironically he relaxed his anti-assassination protocals before he died. Nero himself was too young and unsuited mentally.

Tiberius on the other hand just didn't want the job, the flippin Senate just wouldn't take any responsibility.

[CalIrish]

Part of the reason Caligula appointed his horse as senator was because he wanted it to be a slap in the face and show them how useless the post of senator had become in his eyes. Maybe he also did have a little... uhm... summer romance with the horse, he was a bit off the mark.

[Zastrow]

Why is this in the EB forum? LoL.

[abou]

Why is this in the EB forum? LoL.

I think the real question is why not more of it?

[tk-421]

Tiberius and Claudius were both fine. There is some evidence that Claudius didn't actually intend Nero to succeed him but that he was murdered before he could prclaim Britanicus. Ironically he relaxed his anti-assassination protocals before he died. Nero himself was too young and unsuited mentally.

Tiberius on the other hand just didn't want the job, the flippin Senate just wouldn't take any responsibility.

I wouldn't call Tiberius and Claudius "fine". They were better than some, but they weren't exactly model rulers.

Later in his life, Tiberius started to get really paranoid. People were put to death even if there was very little evidence of disloyalty. I think I read somewhere that a senator was put to death because he carried a coin with Tiberius's image on it into a public restroom. While all this was happening Tiberius was living in Capri engaging in various activities that I do not care to mention.

Claudius was even more fearful of his life, but he did at least have a good reason. His predecessor had been assassinated and there were several attempts on his life. His main problem was that this fear made it possible for his unfaithful wife and some of his government officials to manipulate him for their own good.

[Slartibardfast]

I think the real question is why not more of it?

Pehaps there's a case for a few possible traits in post 0.8.

Ones that are generational and added to Generals who are responsible for/survive battlefield/siege massacres. 26% chance of the guys kids and grand kids developing some kind of PTSD from being brought up by the guy. Same as is the case for Vietnam Veterans Children.

Various levels of insecurities, paranoia, ferocity, violence, suicide attempts and associated psychological disorders. Combining with some earnt traits, and "giving syphallis to your first cousin"as the Black Adder put it, for the chance of your faction developing its' very own sadistically insane "Little Boot" four generations down the track?

Ahhhhh! The possabilities for internal assasination/civil war !

[Musopticon?]

I heard that the lead that was used on the pipes of the aqueduct system slowly but surely poisoned the folks who used it regularly. This caused inherited diseases, defects, retardness and all kinds of general nastiness in pretty much everyone who had been affected in several generations by it.

[Jarardo]

Wasn't there an extreme amount of violence involved with their educational system as well? I remember reading that was one reason for their sadistic behavior.

[Musopticon?]

Add to that the fact that hellenistic Roman youth(only nobles and such of course) lead an increasingly extravagant life and it was even encouraged.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

to be more detailed, Caligual tried to make his horse consul...

[tk-421]

to be more detailed, Caligual tried to make his horse consul...

I thought that he considered making his horse a consul but never actually did.

[Slartibardfast]

I thought that he considered making his horse a consul but never actually did.

Thats not what he told the horse later that night!

Murdering of the relatives just to survive, civil and foreign massacres, PTSD, the Education System, lead poisoning, inbreeding, the privileges and decadence of class, and being forced to wear sandals after mating with horses.

No wonder the Claudian Dynasty is one of the top brutal inhuman regimes of history.

[BozosLiveHere]

Pehaps there's a case for a few possible traits in post 0.8.

Ones that are generational and added to Generals who are responsible for/survive battlefield/siege massacres. 26% chance of the guys kids and grand kids developing some kind of PTSD from being brought up by the guy. Same as is the case for Vietnam Veterans Children.

Various levels of insecurities, paranoia, ferocity, violence, suicide attempts and associated psychological disorders. Combining with some earnt traits, and "giving syphallis to your first cousin"as the Black Adder put it, for the chance of your faction developing its' very own sadistically insane "Little Boot" four generations down the track?

This could be done....it would be somewhat easy to implement too. Your mention of syphilis gave me another idea though: why not create traits for various diseases, like syphilis, diphteria, leprosy, pneumonia, etc.? The chances of infection could be related to sanitary conditions in settlements, long sieges, poorly supplied troops and so on. Heck, I think I would be able to code them myself.

[Sdragon]

Given there was lead poisoning from the aqueducts good sanitary conditions could lead to a couple as well.

[Markus_Aurelius]

This could be done....it would be somewhat easy to implement too. Your mention of syphilis gave me another idea though: why not create traits for various diseases, like syphilis, diphteria, leprosy, pneumonia, etc.? The chances of infection could be related to sanitary conditions in settlements, long sieges, poorly supplied troops and so on. Heck, I think I would be able to code them myself.

You should post this idea in the Suggestions thread, its very good

[Slartibardfast]

This could be done....it would be somewhat easy to implement too. Your mention of syphilis gave me another idea though: why not create traits for various diseases, like syphilis, diphteria, leprosy, pneumonia, etc.? The chances of infection could be related to sanitary conditions in settlements, long sieges, poorly supplied troops and so on. Heck, I think I would be able to code them myself.

Cool!

Put this to the EB team in the "Sugestions for 0.8" thread.

[Elthore]

sweet, diseases

[eadingas]

Well we've already got the "takes after his father" trait, so this should be easy.. problem is, we don't have too many experienced traiters right now, so this kind of thing will have to be postponed for a while.

[We all need someone]

I think plague already has a higher chance of happening during a long siege. I was besieging some Indian city as Baktria for like 10 turns, and I wondered why so many of their soldiers were dying. When they surrendered the town, the pride and joy of my army discovered this "gamplay element".

[Rilder]

Civ City Rome reminds me of Stronghold 2 imho

[Tellos Athenaios]

Given there was lead poisoning from the aqueducts good sanitary conditions could lead to a couple as well.

Not to mention the Sapha the Romans used in a sweetner in their food, and as a boost to their wine. This stuff typically contains high doses of lead ions sulphate ions (one of the very few easy to come by lead salts that actually dissolve fairly well in water) and is probably the cause of many a lead poisoning! Who would have suspected the varied and overall still healthy Roman regimen to kill them?

After a few years though, the aquaducts didn't contribute to lead poisoning anymore as scale would isolate the lead from the running water.