Worlds most hated countires

[whyidie]

In your estimation, who would you say are the worlds most hated countries ? You can focus on one or list your top three. Or do both. Like this:

1. France
2. England
3. Belgium
10. United States of America

France - Hated in SE Asia because of their slave driving plantation ways. Rest of Asia may like them. Hated in Africa for the same. Hated in Europe for being invading imperialists and invaded roll overallists. Hated in Large parts of South America. Disliked only mildly for reactionary reasons in North America. Hated in Australlia because. Antarticans love them.


England - Asians don't hate them. Africans do because of the colonization. Australia treats them like kissing cousins. They hate them yet love them. Same with the Indians. With some exceptions the rest of Europe is generally mild towards the English. South America isn't too fond of them.

Belgium - Asians hate them because of their women. Africans love them because of their balloons. The Belgians hate them. England is envious because of the beer.

USA - Asians love us because we import a lot of rice and electronics. Africa loves us because we didn't do any of that colony junk. European countries generally love our sophisticated taste in food, tv, and pretty much all art and culture. South America enjoys our humble attitude.


So yes, my list is crap. But thats because I'm from America. We have lots to keep track of here nevermind what France said about Niger. What about yours ? What countries are the most hated world wide ?

[GodWillsIt]

1. US
2. France
3. Israel
4. England

5-10 ??

[Vlad The Impaler]

i almoste hate russia . especially the ideea of an imperial russia

[AntiochusIII]

France - Hated in SE Asia because of their slave driving plantation ways. Rest of Asia may like them. Hated in Africa for the same. Hated in Europe for being invading imperialists and invaded roll overallists. Hated in Large parts of South America. Disliked only mildly for reactionary reasons in North America. Hated in Australlia because. Antarticans love them.

Where did you find that out?

I personally lived in Asia for a loooong time (and quite close to the old Crown Jewel of France, Indochina, for that) and the only anti-French sentiment came up in history lessons around the Colonial period. Out of the classroom and the French looked just like any other Westerners out there.

And I've heard Francophone countries aren't exactly hateful of their former masters. No more than the English, or perhaps only a little bit more.

Your list is kinda weird, no offense. Personally, I think the US is generally recognized as one of the most hated countries in the world, if only because people can point it out on the map while most wouldn't be able to locate Honduras or Nepal to hate. That and being powerful and active internationally tend to give you a lot of bad publicity, and envy, and hate...

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

1: USA
2: France/Israel
3: France/Israel

[Don Corleone]

My top 10 and reasoning why:

1) USA When you're on top, everyone else is jealous. Everybody else looks at the USA and says "screw them, we should have all that".
2) Israel One thing Europe and the Middle East CAN agree on is Jews belong in America only.
3) Japan The rest of Asia hates Japan much more passionately then they do #1 or #2.
4) UK Former colonies have lots of axes to grind, that and their friendship with #1.
5) India Every muslim in Asia dreams of converting the subcontinent to Islam and cannot understand why the Hindus resist.
6) Russia: former satellites still have lots of animosity, many in West believe they still have dream of global domination.
7) China: The bigger they get, the more they climb this list.
8) France: Slowly sinking on this list as their strategy of appeasing everyone outside of NATO continues to pay off.
9) Thailand You can only be the world haven of pedophiles for so long before people start to get sore.
10) Egypt Making peace with Israel, at least officially, has left them out in the cold in the Middle East.

It would be interesting to start a second thread of "Who do YOU hate most", my guess is USA would top that list with all of non-Americans, and half of Americans as well.

[Silver Rusher]

Closed!

(dammit, I don't have those powers! Ah well, hopefully a mod will come in here and do it for me)

[Tribesman]

How can you hate a country ?

[Justiciar]

1) USA When you're on top, everyone else is jealous. Everybody else looks at the USA and says "screw them, we should have all that".

Pretty much. It isn't jealousy though. People just don't like powerful nations that push them around. Sadly, America is doomed to be hated now and mocked later.

2) Israel One thing Europe and the Middle East CAN agree on is Jews belong in America only.

... that doesn't even warrant a proper resonse.

3) Japan The rest of Asia hates Japan much more passionately then they do #1 or #2.

A slight exaggeration, but they are definately hated in China and Korea.

4) UK Former colonies have lots of axes to grind.

See the latter of my first sentances, pretty much sums it up. The only former 'colonies' that really dislike us are ones that we truly f***ed over, or ones with notable Irish populations. Shock horror.

5) India Every muslim in Asia dreams of converting the subcontinent to Islam and cannot understand why the Hindus resist.

That's bull. The only muslim nations that hate India are those that share it's rather awkward borders.

6) Russia: former satellites still have lots of animosity, many in West believe they still have dream of global domination.

I wouldn't say they're hated. People are just weary of them.

7) China: The bigger they get, the more they climb this list.

Certainly can agree with that. Aside from Tibetans, Tibetophiles, and it's own citizens not many people really dislike China.

8) France: Slowly sinking on this list as their strategy of appeasing everyone outside of NATO continues to pay off.

True. A few countries in Europe do still dislike France, but I wouldn't call it HATE per se.

9) Thailand you can only be the world haven of pedophiles for so long before people start to get sore.

10) Egypt Making peace with Israel, at least officially, has left them out in the cold in the Middle East.

A temporary thing. If it comes to war, I don't doubt they'd leap at the chance to kick Israel in the nads.

[rasoforos]

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1. The US (Anti-Americanism shows that all nations in the world have at least something in common and that we could all one day unite under that, hold hands around the globe and sing old time classic Soviet and Al Qaeda hymns over uncle Sam's corpse...oh well except the US that is)

2 Israel. For some reason 20% of the planet hates them and want to kill them in the name of....their own God....go figure... To make this more interesting, Christians and Muslims take turns hating them or loving them (Jews were actually finding refuge in islamic countries some centuries ago)

3 The UK. (although more than a US state than a country now...). Hated and loved by their ex-colonies ("They exploited our natural wealth...but lets go see the queen anyway'). Admired by people like Hitler and Dubya. A very self-hating country too. The Brits love to think that everyone hates them...which is why they gave Tony Blair a 3rd term even though they hate him. It makes sence...maybe...

4 Yurop. Thats not really a country...but dont tell the republicans...


5 Australia. Hated by:

1) The ASEAN (because of Australia's 'we wanna join your union but you cannot migrate here if you are yellow' policy)

2) The northern hemisphere (because they go swimming when we are freezing our butts off)

3) Me: Because they produce Olive Oil and wine...these are European stuff. We dont produce cangaroos, they should not produce Olive Oil.



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[Reenk Roink]

You guys have it all wrong here...



North Korea: Do these guys have any friends?



Iran: Again another nation that has popular support (though unlike North Korea it's not because of brainwashing) but very little outside support.



Israel: Let's not kid ourselves, our nations are with very few exceptions (that I can't even think of) based on conquered land. A lot will probably have histories of genocide and/or expulsion (U.S.A). But Israel is a relatively fresh country. The wound in the Arab world is fresh. Too bad that if Israel were to fall, it wouldn't be at the hands of a Saladin. At least not from the current situation in the Arab world.

[Husar]

I think Don Corleone makes some nice points.
I personally hate Americans only when/because they brag about their superiority. As long as they behave normally, I may rather admire them, it's the constant "look at our equipment"/"we are soo 1337 because of..."/"noone can ever beat this or that" etc from some people that makes me hate at times.

Since I don't have an idea about many things and even my hate for the french doesn't exist anymore, I cannot really give a list.

[whyidie]

Where did you find that out?

I personally lived in Asia for a loooong time (and quite close to the old Crown Jewel of France, Indochina, for that) and the only anti-French sentiment came up in history lessons around the Colonial period. Out of the classroom and the French looked just like any other Westerners out there.

And I've heard Francophone countries aren't exactly hateful of their former masters. No more than the English, or perhaps only a little bit more.

Your list is kinda weird, no offense. Personally, I think the US is generally recognized as one of the most hated countries in the world, if only because people can point it out on the map while most wouldn't be able to locate Honduras or Nepal to hate. That and being powerful and active internationally tend to give you a lot of bad publicity, and envy, and hate...

Check out my first post:

So yes, my list is crap.

I figured having Belgium as the 3rd most hated and the USA as 10th would be enough without having to use smileys.

Frankly, this is more of a learning thread for me. Your post provides insight that I wouldn't otherwise get. Good example of why I started the thread. How are the colonial countries viewed ? Was one generally more agreeable than another ?

[whyidie]

Wow, I totally overlooked Israel as a potential top 3.

[whyidie]

How can you hate a country ?

Stay tuned to find out how!

[Don Corleone]

How can you hate a country ?

I think what he means is that you hate what the country represents and yorr picture of the stereotypical inhabitant. In the case of the USA and Israel, perhaps it extends to hating each and every last citizen, but generally, it more relates to hating the 'idea of so and so".

[whyidie]

I think what he means is that you hate what the country represents and yorr picture of the stereotypical inhabitant. In the case of the USA and Israel, perhaps it extends to hating each and every last citizen, but generally, it more relates to hating the 'idea of so and so".

Exactly. And I think you're right about who would win the "Which country do you dislike the most" poll. The optimist in me is holding out hope that there is enough hatred of other countries to disperse around the globe that we wouldn't be a runaway favorite....but then again...

[Redleg]

Who really cares, what nation is the world's most hated?

[IrishArmenian]

No, Iran belongs to an Alliance between Russia, Armenia and Greece. I think the U.S. is hated because of George W. Bush. Despite the US congress best efforts, ever yeer he vetoes the Armenian Genocide Day bill because he doesn't want to hurt Turkey's feelings. And, Armenia gets no assistance in our affairs because we are just one of the few deomocracies in this part of the world. But, beside GWB, I love the US.
I think North Korea is the 1st.
China is 2nd.
France is 3rd, they never reelly make anyone happy.
UK is 4th.
US is 5th.
Then hmmm???

[yesdachi]

As long as you love yourself, that’s what really matters.

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

No, Iran belongs to an Alliance between Russia, Armenia and Greece.

And what alliance may i ask is that?

[IrishArmenian]

Greece is strong allies with with Armenia, correct? Armenia belongs to a 3 way pact between Hyastan (Armenia), Iran and Russia. I just count Greece along with us. The Greece-Armenian alliance is mostly based on Christianity and the historical dislike of a certain country. I almost got to travel to Greece for a sort fo exchange officer training, but I was called up.

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

Greece is strong allies with with Armenia, correct? Armenia belongs to a 3 way pact between Hyastan (Armenia), Iran and Russia. I just count Greece along with us. The Greece-Armenian alliance is mostly based on Christianity and the historical dislike of a certain country. I almost got to travel to Greece for a sort fo exchange officer training, but I was called up.

america and greece are on good terms. Greece and Armenia has a similar history about a neighbor. Anyway youre right but unless greece actually says there in that alliance there not really in it

[IrishArmenian]

Ah, well then, scratch that first statement.

[rasoforos]

Greece is strong allies with with Armenia, correct? Armenia belongs to a 3 way pact between Hyastan (Armenia), Iran and Russia. I just count Greece along with us. The Greece-Armenian alliance is mostly based on Christianity and the historical dislike of a certain country. I almost got to travel to Greece for a sort fo exchange officer training, but I was called up.

Its more like a 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' for Greece's relations with Iran and Russia. A strong Iran gives our own terrotorial rivals (I am Greek) something to think about. I do not think that the Iranians like us back though, I ve heard that they never forgot the whole Alexander thing.

The Greeks (as the people, not the government) will in general sympathise with anyone the US tries to 'liberate' because we had a 'nice little US made' dictatorship ourselves. All Greeks love to hate America over a burger and fries.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Liechtenstein.

Ba****ds.

[Tribesman]

Liechtenstein.

Ba****ds.
What happened to cause such anger Banquo ?
Did they hand over you offshore account details to the revenue commisioners

[Duke of Gloucester]

A very self-hating country too. The Brits love to think that everyone hates them.

There may be some truth in this, because I think the most hated people must be the English. The distinction between English and British is important, because the Scots are widely liked and admired and the Welsh are generally ignored. Throughout our history we have managed to antogonise a large portion of the globe. The English are hated by the following, in order of intensity of dislike and with reasons:

1. The Irish (Cromwell, Penal laws, potato famine, black and tans, partition)
2. The Scots (Edward Longshanks, Culloden, the Act of Union, Highland clearances, a mistaken belief that we try to rule them, when if fact the reverse is true - Blair and Brown are Scots)
3. The Welsh (Edward I again)
4. The French (Hundred years' war, Malborough, Trafalgar and Waterloo, Dunkirk and D-Day)
5. Germany (Two world wars)
6. US (Wars of independence and 1812)
7. Former colonies (Exploiting them and still behaving as if we are superior)

Nobody likes us - we don't care.

The US have a long way to go before they upset quite such a wide range of other peoples and nations, but they are making a brave attempt to overtake us.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Liechtenstein.

Ba****ds.
What happened to cause such anger Banquo ?
Did they hand over you offshore account details to the revenue commisioners

How can you ask that? Those vicious imperialists. Sure, they look cute and pretend to have a tiny, ineffectual country but just google the International Liechtensteinery Illuminati Military-Industrial Complex Brotherhood of Psion-Vaduz.

Have you ever tried to find the place? Round and round and round, up and down mountains... I drove through it five times without noticing.

Oh, and the offshore account thing was purely an accounting mistake, honestly, I never knew about all those dummy companies. I'm legit, I tell ya!

[macsen rufus]

@ Duke: so basically people who hate England have been whupped up good - they're just bad losers , but since 1776 and all that I think the US don't really count. The UK just bites the pillow in that relationship nowadays.

If anyone has a real and justified grievance against England it has to be Ireland. Our track record there has been appalling.

As for France, all Englishmen have to hate the French, it's a condition of nationality

I think the US comes the top of many lists not because of "jealousy", "hating freedom" etc but more out of long weariness of being forced to live under US puppet governments. Despite the recent rhetoric of "bringing democracy to the world" so much of past US foreign policy has depended on installing and propping up some of the world's nastiest dictators and juntas. The Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein, the Taleban (yes, when the Soviets were in Afghanistan), Noriega, and just about every Latin American government throughout the 60s and 70s all benefited from US patronage. Couple this with the tendency to only care about "human rights and good governance" when they're being breached by enemies, but not by friends (eg Saudi Arabia or Iraq -- who was the worst? Who cares, who was America's ally???) There's a sense that a bad government only becomes bad at the point they fall out with the US - even non-governmental forces such as Al Qaeda. SO much of the world's trouble is now caused by monsters created by the US who subsequently slipped the leash and went off on their own and started biting the hand that fed them. And the solution? Usually to go in there with guns and mouths blazing to set up a new set of puppets in a vicious cycle that experience warns us will go on indefinitely. US foreign policy has no values, only interests.

It does seem with the exception of a few "built up" hate figures (eg Iran, N Korea) all the "most hated" seem to have in common one particular characteristic: a never-ending willingness to interfere in the internal matters of other countries. Coincidence, eh?