Naval warfare?

[econ21]

OK, time out. Next one to snipe gets a warning point.

Let's play nice.

[SpencerH]

The RTW model of naval warfare needs more than a tweak to make it work.

[Bob the Insane]

The RTW model of naval warfare needs more than a tweak to make it work.

That is true but whether we like it or not it is simply not a particular focus of the game.

I prefer the abstracted method now in place to any half done attempt at a 3D version. I can't imagine how complicated it would be to create a decent simulation of an early medieval naval battle (no cannons, just a lot of ramming and bording). You have winds and currents, coastal hazzards and you would want to ships too move in a realistic manner not like some common RTS...

For me personally it is abstracted or done right, no middle ground and if the done right would take to long I will live with the abstracted...

[lancelot]

That is true but whether we like it or not it is simply not a particular focus of the game.

I prefer the abstracted method now in place to any half done attempt at a 3D version. I can't imagine how complicated it would be to create a decent simulation of an early medieval naval battle (no cannons, just a lot of ramming and bording). You have winds and currents, coastal hazzards and you would want to ships too move in a realistic manner not like some common RTS...

For me personally it is abstracted or done right, no middle ground and if the done right would take to long I will live with the abstracted...

That was the point I was trying to make in my original post...the paradox naval combat (or indeed any combat) is not a 3D masterpiece but still handled in a way that needs your input and considerations to work effectively.

The TW versions are abstracted to the point of pointlessness...something along the lines of the Paradox system would be relatively easy to implement and finally give naval matters the importance they deserve.

[hoetje]

Actually....

I don't really care about naval battles ^^
It would be weird to see them in 3d.
Anyone knows the strategy game kessen 2?
There,naval battles were in 3d,and every ship of the fleet just attacked one ship of the enemy fleet,so it was really unrealistic ^^

[Ulstan]

The Imperial Glory game (basically Napoleonic total war, it's uncanny how much it mirrors the rtw system) has a gorgeous 3d naval combat system. Unfortunately, I found it to take forever and be very difficult to manage multiple ships effectively - lots of time was spent getting a single ship maneuvered against the wind properly.

I eventually just started auto resolving the battles :)