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Thread: A lot of rebels
when I was playing as KH I noticed that most rebel cities have full-stack armies,especially Thermon.
Then playing the Casse, and fighting only rebels in Britain I find it annoying. I think it should be fixed.
Reasons:
a)Unrealistic
b)Gives the AI too hard time and AI factions don't expand
c)Makes players fed up. In my Casse campaign I have to find ways to lure them out cause attacking a city with 2000+ garrison when having 600 men is a headache.
anyone agrees?
Reasons a and b are the most important.
Then playing the Casse, and fighting only rebels in Britain I find it annoying. I think it should be fixed.
Reasons:
a)Unrealistic
b)Gives the AI too hard time and AI factions don't expand
c)Makes players fed up. In my Casse campaign I have to find ways to lure them out cause attacking a city with 2000+ garrison when having 600 men is a headache.
anyone agrees?
Reasons a and b are the most important.
If find rather fun conquering citys with 20 unit`s garrisons...
It adds to the feel that you`re actually conquering another state.
It prevents one from steamrolling the opponents, and makes you plan carefully your expansions...
And given the lenght of the game (in time scale -slow game-), it suits totally to the type of game EB is intended to. Not just the steamroll machine that was in other mods.
The only drawback, is that the garrisons mostly consists of Pletastai, Luogae, and such, and aren`t heterogeneous armies... which is lame.
It adds to the feel that you`re actually conquering another state.
It prevents one from steamrolling the opponents, and makes you plan carefully your expansions...
And given the lenght of the game (in time scale -slow game-), it suits totally to the type of game EB is intended to. Not just the steamroll machine that was in other mods.
The only drawback, is that the garrisons mostly consists of Pletastai, Luogae, and such, and aren`t heterogeneous armies... which is lame.
Actually, it didn't take me all that much time to conquer the Isles in my Casse campaign. If it's too annoying, you could always just quick-resolve each seige, given that you're using a good general and good troops and all that.
Just siege the city and wait them out, you'll either get the city without a fight or they'll come out to play. Plus luring them out is a perfectly sound tactic.
I feel its quite realistic having to fight a proper battle to take a city for the rebels, they are meant to be independent kingdoms after all and many had strength of their own, including Thermon.
Casse are a challenge, taking over Britain is half the fun of that faction!
The only rebels I hate are the ones popping up at random.
I feel its quite realistic having to fight a proper battle to take a city for the rebels, they are meant to be independent kingdoms after all and many had strength of their own, including Thermon.
Casse are a challenge, taking over Britain is half the fun of that faction!
The only rebels I hate are the ones popping up at random.
Originally Posted by Sdragon:
The only rebels I hate are the ones popping up at random.
Well said..lolThe only rebels I hate are the ones popping up at random.
Originally Posted by Sdragon:
The only rebels I hate are the ones popping up at random.
Pretty much seconded. The only rebels I hate are the ones popping up at random.
God, I hate those bastards...
Originally Posted by k_raso:
If find rather fun conquering citys with 20 unit`s garrisons...
It adds to the feel that you`re actually conquering another state.
It prevents one from steamrolling the opponents, and makes you plan carefully your expansions...
And given the lenght of the game (in time scale -slow game-), it suits totally to the type of game EB is intended to. Not just the steamroll machine that was in other mods.
The only drawback, is that the garrisons mostly consists of Pletastai, Luogae, and such, and aren`t heterogeneous armies... which is lame.
I completely agree with these points. I love the 20 unit garrisons. It means you have to plan every single military invasion carefully or else you can get a potential disaster on your hand.If find rather fun conquering citys with 20 unit`s garrisons...
It adds to the feel that you`re actually conquering another state.
It prevents one from steamrolling the opponents, and makes you plan carefully your expansions...
And given the lenght of the game (in time scale -slow game-), it suits totally to the type of game EB is intended to. Not just the steamroll machine that was in other mods.
The only drawback, is that the garrisons mostly consists of Pletastai, Luogae, and such, and aren`t heterogeneous armies... which is lame.
I like the large garrisons i just hate fighting massive Greek rebel garrisons as they tend to have tons of peltast units and fighting those is somewhat annoying when there is one or two units but when there are 15 of them its
Originally Posted by spirit_of_rob:
I like the large garrisons i just hate fighting massive Greek rebel garrisons as they tend to have tons of peltast units and fighting those is somewhat annoying when there is one or two units but when there are 15 of them its
That's my point. I like the large garrisons i just hate fighting massive Greek rebel garrisons as they tend to have tons of peltast units and fighting those is somewhat annoying when there is one or two units but when there are 15 of them its
And not all independent nations were so pwerful. Most were easy pickings for the nearby empires. I think apart from a few exceptions the rebels shouldn't have so massive armies.
As for Britain, i found it relatively easy to conquer it still it was annoying. If a rebel faction must be strong at least have a garrison with elite units not thousands of skirmishers.
Massive rebel garrisons are a good thing, but 1 unit rebel armies popping up outside of your capital city which is green face happy and consisting of one unit of rorari is a bad thing.
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