Poland 1939

[Kalle]

I am afraid I dont see your point at all Kraxis.

Well, you first post indicated that you had thought the article meant Britain broke the Munich treaty.

Hm, that was not the intention and after rereading my post I dont see how you come to this conclusion. I am just showing the absurdity of critizising Englands and Polands firmer stand and blaming them as if they provoced the war after HITLER broke the Munichpact because critizising Poland and England for making a firmer stand against a warmongerer is what the article does.

The opinion of the article aside it isn't that susprising that Poland would pursue a more firm policy when Britain gave her support. That is only logical.

Yes indeed. I must repeat though that I didnt see any Polish demands for German territory and so on. It was Germany pointing its guns on Poland - thankfully other European countries finally realised it was time to say stop.

That point alone doesn't lay blame, it merely gives a reason for it. When we work with it alone I can't see why it is so important to lay a blame... And we ARE working with the points on a one to one basis. Do they hold water at all, or are they faulty?

The points present in that article do not hold water at all. Perhaps if you ask David Irving they do but no serious historian will support those statements. Not important to lay blame you say... Well it is equally important not to make any dubious arguments as this article does trying to put blame where it definitly do not belong.

Can I ask you to be frank. Do you support the statements made in that article or not?

Again I am sorry to say I fail to see your point.

Kalle

[Samurai Waki]

I always thought, that the molotov-ribbentrop pact was agreed by Stalin because he knew that the Soviet Army was ill-equipped and undermanned. He had no interest in dealing with the Nazi's personally, but was using the pact as a means to give him some breathing space for his own military build up. Stalin probably could've cared less if a chunk of Poland was added into his realm or not based on the treaty, but as it was, why not add a little bit to the realm? In any event, had Germany not attacked the Soviet Union, then the Soviets would've been the first to attack Germany. They were just waiting for their own build up, but War came a little too early to react capably with ill experienced officers.

Unfortunately, Poland has a history of being the best place to invade for a logistical spring board into other territories.