Hetairoi in Greek

[Conradus]

He means the spiritus asper, which you have to pronounce as a 'h' (if what we get at school of ancient greek is anywhere near correct)

hence 'etairoi would be pronounced as Hetairoi just like you read it?

[Atreidis]

He means the spiritus asper, which you have to pronounce as a 'h' (if what we get at school of ancient greek is anywhere near correct)

hence 'etairoi would be pronounced as Hetairoi just like you read it?

No for this I am absolutely sure names like, Hetairoi, Hypaspistai all have the spiritus asper (I think you mean this ~ right?)

If you want to pronounce them like ancient Greeks did, leave the 'H' out and call them , Ypapaspistai, Etairoi etc

In English they pronounce the 'H' as well, classic example the Greek name "Eleni" (which has the spiritus asper) is called Helen in English

[Conradus]

Every ancient Greek word that you now write with a 'h' starts with a spiritus asper
but if the ancient Greek we get is correct then you have to pronounce the words as hetairoi,... (not a very clear 'h' but more of an aspiration of every word.

[L'Impresario]

To give words in english that might help you get the pronunciation pez, boy (-oi) and sky (-ai) are good examples. No mistaking how to say those!

Well, it's not an entirely correct answer, as he didn't say he wanted the pronounciation in Attic Greek. "Hetairoi" as a word was definately used many more times in Koine;)

[QwertyMIDX]

Just ignoring the h is the wrong way to pronounce the word. Aspiration has a very distinct sound to it, for example compare the english 'd' (aspirated) with the frech 'd' (unaspirated). The sound is substanitally different. In ancient greek you have to voice the aspiration which is represented by the intial h (as well as the h in th, ph and kh combinations).

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Once unit lists are absolutely finalized, there might be some pronunciation key or something (who knows) added to the website. I doubt we have enough manpower or energy to put sound files up for each though. Maybe. For Greek, the voicemod will not have a koine pronunciation but a classical one. Hetairoi will definitely be pronounced: Heh-TIE-roy

[L'Impresario]

For Greek, the voicemod will not have a koine pronunciation but a classical one.

A bit anachronistic, don't you think? OTOH I'd be really anxious to see how people would encorporate the pitch accents in 5th cent. Attic, if anyone was up to the task heh
Ofcourse one could go with stressing the relevant syllables, either way that would be better to show the evolution towards the Koine language.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Just ignoring the h is the wrong way to pronounce the word. Aspiration has a very distinct sound to it, for example compare the english 'd' (aspirated) with the frech 'd' (unaspirated). The sound is substanitally different. In ancient greek you have to voice the aspiration which is represented by the intial h (as well as the h in th, ph and kh combinations).

It's a bit like 'cat' or 'hat' in Queens English, it's not a 'h' like German or Dutch ones, it's somewhere between not voiced and voiced. Like: 'p' not voiced, 'b' voiced, and 'ph' aspirated. Of course, if you don't quite get the difference then you can always use the Latin name of the Greek 'h': spiritus (h)asper, where - to pronounce it correctly - 'asper' is asperiated.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Well, it's not an entirely correct answer, as he didn't say he wanted the pronounciation in Attic Greek. "Hetairoi" as a word was definately used many more times in Koine;)

Maybe, yet the female version (which is also a byword for prostitute, the koine for prostitute being also gyne porne) was commonly used and pronounced nearly the same: 'Hetairai'.

[L'Impresario]

The hellenistic koine period dates from 323BC, with the dead of Alexander, and you already have importants works in the language that early, in the 3rd cent. BC for example, one can find the Old Testament translation by hellenised Jews, which shows various interesting influences that had become prominent by then. Even from the late 4th cent. BC there are countless letters and documents among the Egyptian scrolls found written in Koine.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Actually read up on when those changes start taking place instead of trying to pretend like since Alexander dies, that means the Hellenistic period beings, and thus koine (which becomes more common in that period) would start in 323. To put it even more simply: in 272 kings and generals aren't speaking New Testament koine.

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edit: One of the big changes in koine is in the pronunciation of phi, theta, and chi. Here is a clear description of when that change occurs:

From Vox Graeca: A Guide to the Pronunciation of Classical Greek by W. Sidney Allen 1974 Cambridge.
The evidence thus seems conclusive that in 5 c. Attic φ, θ, χ represented plosives (as π, τ, κ) and NOT fricatives (as ς, or as φ, θ, χ in modern Greek). The continuation of the plosive pronunciation into a later period is shown by the fact that Latin renders Greek φ at first as a simple p, later as ph (e.g. Pilipus, Philippus), but never in classical Latin times as f, which would have been appropriate for a fricative pronunciation… However, there is no doubt that, as modern Greek shows, the aspirated plosives did eventually change to fricatives. Evidence is sometimes quoted which would suggest that the beginnings of such a change could be traced to the 2 c. B.C…. With one problematic exception the first clear evidence for a fricative pronunciation comes from the 1 c. A.D. in Pompeian spellings such as Dafne (= Δάφνη)… From the 2 c. A.D. the representation of φ by Latin f becomes common, and Latin grammarians have to give rules when to spell with f and when with ph… It may be that a scholarly pronunciation of φ, θ, χ as plosives continued for some time in the schools… There is even possibly some evidence that the plosive pronunciation continued in the schools up to the time when the Glagolitic alphabet was formed in the 9 c. for the writing of Old Church Slavonic.

Hardly appropriate for this mod.