Free influence exploit?

[Biggus Diccus]

I noticed in my current game that my ruler did not loose influence when loosing a province to rebels. I decided to try this out more and it seems to be the case that letting a province rebel, withdrawing troops, loose control of the province, and then conquer the province again results in positive influence gain for your ruler. This can be done as many times as you like to have your ruler gain a lot of influence.

Anyone else noticed this?

[Deus ret.]

I'll try this on a larger scale as soon as I have the time since it seemed to me that gaining/losing one point of influence was tied to the the gain/loss of two provinces, neglecting other factors in this relation. however, since winning battles also contributes to your influence rating, it might well be that by re-conquering a province which was lost without a battle the influence balance gets positive.

[Biggus Diccus]

Come to think of it I have seen this before as well, in a VI campaign. I bribed troops in Denmark, gained control of the province, disbanded the troops, lost control after rebellion and repeated. I am pretty sure my ruler lost no influence, only gaining it (have to do this twice to gain 1 influence of course).

[Martok]

Interesting, Biggus Diccus; I haven't really noticed whether that phenomenon happens in my games. My experience is virtually identical to Dues ret.'s. As a rule, my faction leader's influence decreases by a factor of 1 for every 2 provinces that are lost, regardless of wether it's rebels or a specific faction that drove me out of a province (and vice versa, of course).

I rarely lose provinces to rebellions, however, so I don't really have a basis for comparison. I might start a throw-away campaign this weekend and see if I can reproduce what happened to you. If it does turn out to be an exploit, you may be the first to have found it, as I don't know that anyone's mentioned it before now. It's interesting how one can still discover little things about this game, even after four years.

[Vladimir]

Basically it's the rebellion command star exploit.

[cori]

Biggus Diccus:
'it seems to be the case that letting a province rebel, withdrawing troops, loose control of the province, and then conquer the province again results in positive influence gain for your ruler.This can be done as many times as you like to have your ruler gain a lot of influence.


yap,if you retake provinse with jihad/cruisade....cheese,but works

[rabcarl]

Influence can be a big pain if your king has a high influence rating and then dies, soooo many rebellions =[