Free influence exploit?

**Biggus Diccus** · 09-05-2006, 19:28

Come to think of it I have seen this before as well, in a VI campaign. I bribed troops in Denmark, gained control of the province, disbanded the troops, lost control after rebellion and repeated. I am pretty sure my ruler lost no influence, only gaining it (have to do this twice to gain 1 influence of course).

**Martok** · 09-05-2006, 21:59

Interesting, Biggus Diccus; I haven't really noticed whether that phenomenon happens in my games. My experience is virtually identical to Dues ret.'s. As a rule, my faction leader's influence decreases by a factor of 1 for every 2 provinces that are lost, regardless of wether it's rebels or a specific faction that drove me out of a province (and vice versa, of course).

I rarely lose provinces to rebellions, however, so I don't really have a basis for comparison. I might start a throw-away campaign this weekend and see if I can reproduce what happened to you. If it does turn out to be an exploit, you may be the first to have found it, as I don't know that anyone's mentioned it before now. It's interesting how one can still discover little things about this game, even after four years.

**Vladimir** · 09-12-2006, 13:52

Basically it's the rebellion command star exploit.

**cori** · 11-12-2008, 18:31

Biggus Diccus:
'it seems to be the case that letting a province rebel, withdrawing troops, loose control of the province, and then conquer the province again results in positive influence gain for your ruler.This can be done as many times as you like to have your ruler gain a lot of influence.

yap,if you retake provinse with jihad/cruisade....cheese,but works

**Fagar** · 11-13-2008, 23:26

This exploit is a tried and true method that works.
It is a good way to get your influence up quiclky if you have a newly crowned, weak King.

I use it more often as the Muslim factions where I conquer a province but if I have barely enough troops to hold it I let it rebel, Loyalist rebellion or even let my enemy move back in then launch a Jihad for the province.

You get instant influence for a successful Jihad and also conquering a province.

**Agent Miles** · 11-14-2008, 17:09

Just make sure that some other faction doesn't target the new rebel province at the same time. Your navy no longer guards a rebel's coast, so anyone with a sea path to a rebel's coast may meet you ashore.

**Martok** · 11-14-2008, 21:48

Originally Posted by Agent Miles

Just make sure that some other faction doesn't target the new rebel province at the same time. Your navy no longer guards a rebel's coast, so anyone with a sea path to a rebel's coast may meet you ashore.

If nothing else, make sure you have the larger army. This applies whether the other faction is allied to you or not.