EB and RTR compatability

**Obelics** · 09-07-2006, 14:10

Originally Posted by Macilrille

Greetings all.

I am sorry to ask something that must have been answered somewhere else, but I cannot seem to find the actual answer. I thus have to ask it, how is EB compatible with RTR? I like the sound of EB, but I have just started using RTR (being a historian), and quite like it and would prefer to keep it.

Thanks.

Best wishes; Palle

Well, if you are an historian i think EB is the mod for you, it is still "open" if you pass me the term, and if you are good with english, you can contribute with some description, or with some name buildings, just dont have some prejudice because it dont have the word "Realism" in its title, EB is the most Realistic mod out there, so it is worthy to have its own istallation space in the HD, and believe me im not a fanatic (ive a lot of mods installed on my HD), so i speack for experience, and other mods are ages far away from the EB "realism"... you can even have it installed (without playing) just as an off-line wikipedia of the ancient world...

PS (this is not intended to you Palle, but is a general consideration of mine)
I think that a lot of people dont know EB is "The" realistic mod cause the title doesn't contain the word "realism", i just wonder what people could think if they put a subtitle that refers to "realism" or somthink like that...
I have not a fantasy for titles..."EB - the better approximation to the ancient Era, that is possible in a RTW engine"? naaah it sound too much technical...

**Macilrille** · 09-07-2006, 15:00

He he he, well in any search you do you find RTR described as THE realistic mod, perhaps it is older. I quite like it, though it loses the internal struggle between the great men of Rome that RTW sort of tries to touch...

I am a historian indeed, Ma in History and political science (unemployed, Denmark does not need me right now, so should you have a job, let me know;-) ). Speciality is military history, viking-medieval history and Roman history. I am also a viking reenactor, doing martial arts with copies of viking weapons.

In any case, after I tried to install "The First Triumvirate" (which I would dearly like to try), the game crashes, unable to find the skeleton for a spearman. I think you guys have "sold" the EB mod well enough that I will de a reinstall and try that for comparison, I am home from a course ill anyway.

BTW, there should be a leadernamed Gaius Marius for a while before his reforms.

And if EB needs a historian, they can drop me a line on Macilrille@gmail.com (I just love gmail's spamfilter or I would not post it publicly:-)).

Best wishes, Palle, Carpenter, historian and viking line commander.

**Foot** · 09-07-2006, 15:11

Originally Posted by Macilrille

BTW, there should be a leadernamed Gaius Marius for a while before his reforms.

People are really obsessed with Marius as the be all and end all of Roman reforms. EB will not (regardless that it is impossible) be including a Marius character, our dynamic reforms are based on the economic, military, social reasons for the reforms; coupled with a suitable candidate who has the influence and know-how to institute such reforms.

Other than that, sit back and enjoy EB, Macilrille. You will find it very stimulating. Though I don't understand why you think that RTW's three families approach to Roman politics is more suitable than RTR's (and also EB's) approach.

Foot

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 09-07-2006, 15:21

Take a look at the EB website too. www.europabarbarorum.com

You'll probably enjoy some of the faction histories we have, as well as the general faction descriptions and the unit descriptions we have up too (not all are on there).

edit: bah! you're faster on the draw than me you blasted Norwayer!

**Krusader** · 09-07-2006, 15:15

https://www.europabarbarorum.com/

Take a look at our website and see around if the pages there can help you decide or cause any impressions.

And btw, the goal of EB is not to recreate history exact. There will be no Gaius Marius, but there will be Marian reforms. There will be no Hannibal suddenly appearing.

**Macilrille** · 09-07-2006, 15:28

History is complicated and Marius is a suitable figurehead/catalyst for reforms that had been going on since the Punic Wars and only ended later.

What I miss is not the RTW approach but something simulating the struggles for power in Rome itself between the magnates. Much of Rome's expansion in the late republic was in fact due to these military magnates and Rome was farfrom a unified power internally though to the rest of the world it looked as such. RTW sort of simulates that in a primitive way that RTR at least does not, and I miss something that simulates the cutthroat Roman power politics. Perhaps I roleplay too much;-)

Best wishes; Palle

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 09-07-2006, 15:36

Take a look at the traits in EB. They are more complex by far than any other mod for RTW. Everything is more complex

If you like to roleplay with your generals, there is no better mod to do it with than EB.

**orwell** · 09-07-2006, 15:49

I dislike carrying a banner for the competition, but RTR 6 has a unified rome. RTR 7 will have a counter faction, thus allowing a somewhat better simulation of the later years of roman politics.

EB on the other hand will blow the competition away, and leave your RTR install to crumble under its own dust.

**Macilrille** · 09-07-2006, 15:59

So, while I wait for it to unpack itself. Where do I find more historical battle scenarios, campaigns etc.? RTR had a couple of neat campaigns that I would like to try, but was very thin on the replaying of historical battles side of things, only having Cynoscephalae and Magnesia. I LIKE replaying historical battles and I would love to start a campaign game in the Late Republic, etc...

Best wishes, Palle