Artillery on Walls?

**Silencer** · 09-07-2006, 15:57

Hi,

I just noticed a nice screenie@gamespot: completion of a Citadel. Do you notice those very large towers, especially at the gates?
So, this brings me to my question, will it be possible to load artillery (catapults, mangonels, canons) on the towers like in real life?

thnx for any help!

**GeneralMikeIII** · 09-08-2006, 04:52

IIRC, in M1TW, the later castles could be upgraded to include seige towers containing ballista, catapults, and in the late game even cannons. You didn't have to have seige weapons stationed in the province (in fact, if you did, they usually just put them inside the walls of the castle, but not on them. This was kinda nice though, because the high Angle of Fire of the catapults allowed you to lob rocks over the wall onto the besiegers as they approached and not have to worry about taking return fire, at least until the walls were breached). I assume it will be the same in M2, since I haven't heard anything to the contrary.

**alexrugr** · 09-08-2006, 10:13

Originally Posted by GeneralMikeIII

IIRC, in M1TW, the later castles could be upgraded to include seige towers containing ballista, catapults, and in the late game even cannons. You didn't have to have seige weapons stationed in the province (in fact, if you did, they usually just put them inside the walls of the castle, but not on them. This was kinda nice though, because the high Angle of Fire of the catapults allowed you to lob rocks over the wall onto the besiegers as they approached and not have to worry about taking return fire, at least until the walls were breached). I assume it will be the same in M2, since I haven't heard anything to the contrary.

But what about the cannons/culverins ?they have low tragectory fire and this makes them almost useless when you are besieged,they are to slow to fire and attacker will kill crews before they actualy can make any serius damage,also MTW2 uses engine simular to RTW and where catapults likely to hit your own walls than enemy on the other side.

**Silencer** · 09-08-2006, 13:35

But what about the cannons/culverins ?they have low tragectory fire and this makes them almost useless when you are besieged,they are to slow to fire and attacker will kill crews before they actualy can make any serius damage,also MTW2 uses engine simular to RTW and where catapults likely to hit your own walls than enemy on the other side.

Indeed. that was what I was wondering too. The Tower are large enough to hold siege equipment and cannons. The Late 14e-15e century fortresses hold plenty of those.

**GeneralMikeIII** · 09-08-2006, 16:11

Indeed. that was what I was wondering too. The Tower are large enough to hold siege equipment and cannons. The Late 14e-15e century fortresses hold plenty of those.

Right, like I was saying the defensive seige towers are built into the castle when it is constructed on the Campaign map. As a defender (of a seige), individual seige weapon units are almost useless in most situations because the trajectory is too flat to do anything other than destroy one's own walls or units. My main point was just that the siege weapons are automatically put into the towers, and they aren't needed as individual units. I never have seige weapons as garrison units.