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    Default What Expansion do you want? 2

    The other "What expansion do you want" thread had not only expansions but new games too. This is purely for expansions.

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    A Norman Conquest expansion with the British Isles, Northern France, Norway and Denmark.

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    I think the Renaissance would be the coolest of the ones listed. Crusader is a very very close second, but CA says it revamped the religion aspect for vanilla M2TW, so I want to see just exactly how that plays out first.

    The Renaissance would be cool because of all the possibilities it presents. If you play from 1500-1800 for example, you would start out with gunpowder being something that is still new and inferior to most other alternatives. By the end, it will completely dominate almost everything else. In that middle part, though, you could make anything work. It will be a balancing act, just like the one in MTW between Cavalry, Infantry, and Missile, but with a new Gunpowder variable. And those are just the military choices. You could try to tie in different government types (something like Civics in cIV maybe, as long at it still feels like TW; see below) and you could have to choose between Protestant and Catholic (for W. Europeans, anyway), along with a bunch of other stuff I'm sure.

    I fear they might do a new world one, though. They set up for it by introducing it in the vanilla to a very small extent, and they may try to expand on it. Also, there is AoE III to consider. That is why I fear a New World expansion to M2. AoE III was just so weird in that you were a European country, but had little contact to what was actually happening in Europe. Overall I felt AoE III was a good game, but it had flaws, and it isn't TW, and if CA goes to M2TW: Colonial War, I'm afraid of too much of a blend between the games.
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    I just want any expansion that doesn't feature the word 'Invasion' in the title.

    It would be nice to have a game where conquest wasn't as important as perhaps diplomacy and peacekeeping. The total war expansions just seem to be about slaughtering people faster than you did in the main game. Having a different focus for a change might be a bold and interesting step. You'd still have the large battles of course. I can't think of a particular period or part of the world for the expansion to concentrate on though. I'd suggest the 100 years war, but we English lost that, so nuts to that!
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    Default Re: What Expansion do you want? 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Templar Knight
    A Norman Conquest expansion with the British Isles, Northern France, Norway and Denmark.
    They conquered Denmark?? Seriously?

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    I would like to see one set around the year 1000 AD, before the battle of Hastings or the battle of Manzikert. The Anglo-saxons would be a nice addition IMHO.
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    Renaissance (sp) / Reformation. Takes us well and truly into the gunpowder age, throws in a whole bunch of religious influences and gives the modders lots to play with
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    i would like the expansion to expand the game map eastward to include the asian empires

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    and a cane2 multiply campaign options and rome for m2tw upgrade for watch towers and castle towers the ocean battels can be plaid

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    I like the idea of keeping an expansion game in the early-ish gunpowder stage, but the renaissance (as I understand it) is pretty much already covered in the dates of MTW2.

    The Thirty Years' War and the period of revolution and rebellion thereafter, including including the English Civil Wars (or the War of the Three Kingdoms), the Dutch and Portugese rebellions, etc. might be a pretty interesting period to cover. It could even extend to include the "Greast Turkish War" (and the Battle of Vienna) towrds the late 17th century.

    A time of major crisis, with wars, rebeliions, plague, and major religious shifts. Kind of on a large scale, but no more so than the Barbarian Invasion expansion.

    I'm sure Sega's marketing people would hate it, though. I mean, how does one make the Thirty Years' War sound sexy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guillaume le Batard
    I'm sure Sega's marketing people would hate it, though. I mean, how does one make the Thirty Years' War sound sexy?
    You gotta make it understandable first! I read "The 30 years War" last year at work was always getting asked in the coffee-room "who fought that war? who won? what was it about?"

    "Um, its a bit complicated....."

    In the end I would just say "France & Sweden beat Germany and Spain" and that would satisfy people. I never did manage to come up with a simple explanation of what the war was about
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    Quote Originally Posted by professorspatula
    It would be nice to have a game where conquest wasn't as important as perhaps diplomacy and peacekeeping.
    Peacekeeping?!?! In a 'Total War' brand game...
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    I really liked the smaller scale of the VI games so I would like to see something along those lines again. So either another VI or a Norman invasion would be great.

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    I voted other because I want to see the 'dark ages' better represented, but not just another Viking Invasion limited to the British Isles. Interesting things were happening across the game area, especially with the Byzantines, Arabs, Franks, and Norsemen. Why must this period so often be overlooked?

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    I would like to see some scenarios covering different wars. Eg, Hussite Wars, 100 Years War, the Reconquista, Mongol Invasion of Russia, War of the Roses, Baltic Crusades, etc.

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    Italian Invasion:

    Normans, Venetians, Byzantines, expedition options to Tunisia and crusades, among others...


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    I still have to go with "The Rise of Islam". And if the Musulman conquer all of North Africa it should trigger a Dark Ages event in Christian lands.


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    Why? The dark ages were due to the collapse of the Roman Empire in Europe, not Islamic expansion in N Africa.
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    how about concentrating on one countries civil war? The stated time frame of the game nearly leads up to eng civil war or french revolution times. Then just make a really detailed map of one of these countries and put lots of small factions in.

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    Italy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lancelot
    Peacekeeping?!?! In a 'Total War' brand game...
    Yes. Peacekeeping until war, or you're in a position to take advantage. Keeping your friends and potential enemies at bay whilst you plan their downfall etc . It's the preparation for eventual war that is underplayed in the TW games. And even when you're on the backfoot, diplomatic options are limited at best. I don't see why expansions couldn't bring a lot more to the main game, rather than something as simple as a horde or whatever. Because really after playing the main campaign of a TW game, then mods, by the time the expansion arrives, you're not getting much new thrown at you. That's fine and all, but I'd still like to see a bit of bold step from CA to try focusing on something else for once. There will probably be a couple of expansions anyway, so a more traditional 'Generic Invasion' add-on could still be added to CA's list of titles.
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    i would like to see an english civil war expansion pack or may be one about vikings like in the original med but i do like the civil war idea!

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    Crusades would be cool.
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    Another Viking Age expansion would be good if it involved a larger area than just Britain and Ireland. The Rennaisance and Islamic expansions are good ideas, and a Dark Age "BI 2" addon (300-800 AD) would be droolable, esspecially if done properly.
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    Don't really mind, because if it is easy to mod you can mod all kinds of "Expansions" into it.
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    I would defiantly prefer a crusader exp. Where they would make ages, like in MTW, and you could start at the fall of jerusalem, 1145(second crusade) and the second fall of jerusalem, and the campaign would end in 1205, or in 1291.

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    I would guess, by the introduction of the americas, that the expansion or expansions will be based on the americas. Factions could be, England, France, Spain, Portugal, Holland as a start and then add a few native american tribes.

    I am thinking somethink in the line of Sids Colonization.
    the modding concept could be amazing, we could have one based on the carribbean, american rev, civil war etc..... And that not taking into account south america.
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    new world expasion
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    The game can take the same route as RTW, one expansion on Reniassance, and the other pre-medieval (just like RTW, one about the fall of rome, and one about alexander, which is prior to romes dominance).

    So we can have a reniassance expansion with more involvement in the Americas and european politics gets more advanced with the waning of the popes power, and a pre-medieval, dark ages oriented game, viking invasion 2 or even arab invasion (so long its the entire of europe and north africa again.

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