First Day on the job with Fire

**Quid** · 09-16-2006, 23:08

Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

That's horrific, DA. I hope the rest of the people turn out okay.

As a side not, I filed traffic accident reports over the summer part of the time, and the most common cause of an accident in the reports was someone pulling out from a stop sign onto a road and striking a car or getting struck.

Crazed Rabbit

Ok, that was the cause of the actual accident but what was it that made them disregard stop signs? Unattentiveness because of drunkeness? Tiredness? Drugs? Etc.

I gather that was what DA was talking about.

Quid

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 09-16-2006, 23:13

Probably just plain unattentiveness/poor line of sight. There's a reason rotaries are way safer than intersections.

**ajaxfetish** · 09-17-2006, 01:26

Also, DA's reasons were associated with traffic accident deaths. It sounds as though CR's reports were for accidents in general. Bad timing pulling out may cause more accidents, but how many of those are fatal?

Ajax

**Crazed Rabbit** · 09-17-2006, 01:53

Originally Posted by Quid

Ok, that was the cause of the actual accident but what was it that made them disregard stop signs? Unattentiveness because of drunkeness? Tiredness? Drugs? Etc.

I gather that was what DA was talking about.

Quid

Sasaki's got it; not paying attention, mostly.

Also, DA's reasons were associated with traffic accident deaths. It sounds as though CR's reports were for accidents in general. Bad timing pulling out may cause more accidents, but how many of those are fatal?

Good point.

Crazed Rabbit

**Divinus Arma** · 09-17-2006, 05:27

Ya. Deaths. Most non-fatal accident are rear-enders from following too closely or traveling too fast for the conditions. Speed is the greatest facotr os basic accidents. My comments above refer to deaths. Those four factors are like a director stating: "cue death!" Seatbelts especially. I mean, consider running as fast as you can head first into a brick wall. That's only like tenb miles an hour. At 20 mph, you would experience FOUR times as much force. Energy quadruples with velocity.

**Papewaio** · 09-18-2006, 01:00

Originally Posted by Divinus Arma

Energy quadruples with velocity.

Energy squares with velocity.

Go twice as fast and you hit four times as hard.
Go three times as fast and you hit nine times as hard.
Go 10 times as fast and you hit 1000 times as hard.

Seat belts have a secondary role in helping prevent accidents in the first place. By keeping you in your seat at the wheel it can help you remain in control longer rather then sliding out of the driver position.

**Divinus Arma** · 09-18-2006, 20:05

Originally Posted by Papewaio

Energy squares with velocity.

Go twice as fast and you hit four times as hard.

That is essentially what I meant. I just used an easy to understand term. But thanks for clarifying it.

**econ21** · 09-18-2006, 22:59

Good luck with your new job, Divinus Arma. Your posts here are very informative and interesting, if sometimes scarey. You are a brave man. I really like the photo on the first page of you in uniform. From this, as from your posts, I can see you are a person who enjoys life and goes at it with a real zeist. It's great that you have found such a worthwhile outlet for your energy and ability. All power to your elbow, sir!

**Vladimir** · 09-19-2006, 00:56

I am entirely greatful that I never had to work traffic accidents. I supose part of you gets used to the brain splattering and raw human hamburger; I'm just not too sure what happens to the rest.

**Papewaio** · 09-19-2006, 05:23

Originally Posted by Divinus Arma

That is essentially what I meant. I just used an easy to understand term. But thanks for clarifying it.

No worries, I can understand the physics, I do not think I could handle seeing the consequences of someone who comes off second best with a sudden stop.

**Divinus Arma** · 09-20-2006, 03:42

Originally Posted by Papewaio

No worries, I can understand the physics, I do not think I could handle seeing the consequences of someone who comes off second best with a sudden stop.

Sadly, you get used to it.

I am posting from the Captain's computer, so I better run before I hear it from the Engineer.

Oh, and my wife should have the baby a tad early with no complications this weekend.

Sadly, I had to put my MBA on hold until February. I am halfway through and I would have Graduated in late Spring. Alas, it must wait due to new job + baby. I barely even have time to post around here.