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    Thanks for the great information Soulflame, it is really appreciated and clarifies a lot of things.

    To some of the questions popping up in this thread I'd like to add my two cents:

    But I was just wondering what is this shit about "bridges" between Ireland and Scotland, and Denmark and Sweden.

    You only got a bridge between Denmark and Sweden in the 20th century. Whats this nonsence with bridges that cant exist
    The 'bridges' he is referring to are land bridges, which are an abstract representation of local shipping used to pass small stretches of water, this makes them behave like modern bridges gameplay-wise, but that's not what they are.

    ow what I'd like is a "Hall of Fame" scroll in the campaign, that keeps track of the most talented generals and maybe governors that lived so far in the campaign. That I'd like much more then historically accurate people spawning from nowhere into an alternative history.
    There actually are some screenshots around that show the most famous general of your faction in your faction screen, while this sure isn't the feature you've envisioned it's still a beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ituralde
    Thanks for the great information Soulflame, it is really appreciated and clarifies a lot of things.

    To some of the questions popping up in this thread I'd like to add my two cents:



    The 'bridges' he is referring to are land bridges, which are an abstract representation of local shipping used to pass small stretches of water, this makes them behave like modern bridges gameplay-wise, but that's not what they are.



    There actually are some screenshots around that show the most famous general of your faction in your faction screen, while this sure isn't the feature you've envisioned it's still a beginning.

    Cheers!

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    Can you give me a link to those screenshots mate?
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    not on subject for ... the answers, but

    IMO the landbridges become essential for the computer ai to act rationally and effectively. the ai becomes landlocked often in the 1st medieval game if the bridges are removed. it has some trouble getting crusades to move to the orient across constantiople if there isn't a bridge. i remember many times even in rome total war the scippi and brutti would not act well with their fleets. they would not take advantage of their fleet advantages and they would not do seabourne invasions in any concrete way. many times i saw the brutti move armies up the peninsula of italy and back down the balkan side instead of just ferrying the army straight across to greece.

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    Default Re: Med2 Preview Event... the answers

    Quote Originally Posted by highlanddave
    not on subject for ... the answers, but

    IMO the landbridges become essential for the computer ai to act rationally and effectively. the ai becomes landlocked often in the 1st medieval game if the bridges are removed. it has some trouble getting crusades to move to the orient across constantiople if there isn't a bridge. i remember many times even in rome total war the scippi and brutti would not act well with their fleets. they would not take advantage of their fleet advantages and they would not do seabourne invasions in any concrete way. many times i saw the brutti move armies up the peninsula of italy and back down the balkan side instead of just ferrying the army straight across to greece.
    The AI is much better at seaborne invasions in BI.
    "I request permanent reassignment to the Gallic frontier. Nay, I demand reassignment. Perhaps it is improper to say so, but I refuse to fight against the Greeks or Macedonians any more. Give my command to another, for I cannot, I will not, lead an army into battle against a civilized nation so long as the Gauls survive. I am not the young man I once was, but I swear before Jupiter Optimus Maximus that I shall see a world without Gauls before I take my final breath."

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoetje
    Can you give me a link to those screenshots mate?
    The Famous General can be seen in the faction overview scroll, the only screenshot I have found is the following of rather bad quality, I'm afraid, hope you can still make it out:
    http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/eagleey...hots/mtw04.jpg

    The faction overview can also be seen in the newest Official Movie talking about Religion and Crusades. The faction overview appears around 2:12 into the movie. The movie can be found here:
    http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/gam...sades.wmv.html

    Hope that helped!

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    Default Re: Med2 Preview Event... the answers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ituralde
    The Famous General can be seen in the faction overview scroll, the only screenshot I have found is the following of rather bad quality, I'm afraid, hope you can still make it out:
    http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/eagleey...hots/mtw04.jpg

    The faction overview can also be seen in the newest Official Movie talking about Religion and Crusades. The faction overview appears around 2:12 into the movie. The movie can be found here:
    http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/gam...sades.wmv.html

    Hope that helped!

    Cheers!

    Ituralde
    Thank you very much mate
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    "I guess I just don't see the motivation behind this change."

    Probably to make sure governors actually stay in the places they are supposed to be governing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furious Mental
    "I guess I just don't see the motivation behind this change."

    Probably to make sure governors actually stay in the places they are supposed to be governing.
    For what purpose? This wasn't necessarily historically true, and it's certainly not great for gameplay. If the Duke of York's troops were going to battle under the King, the Duke had jolly well be there.

    Look at the bit in Henry V (okay, not the most historical document, but still) where they read off the names of the French nobles who were killed or captured at Agincourt. It's a long list of nobles who were present. Sitting at home (while maybe a good idea, if you were French around Agincourt) wasn't the norm.

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