My mini-mod is unable to start!

**Caius** · 09-09-2006, 13:59

Hi.
I am creating my mini mod, but i'm having a problem.
I modificated the descr_strat.txt, and I modificated some things.
but i dont see any errors in the file who make my campaign unable to start!
Where is the problem?

**Makanyane** · 09-09-2006, 15:23

You are going to need to provide more information for anyone to help you.

FIRST - have you got -show_err on your shortcut????

If you have and it isn't giving you a message, please explain a little more about what you altered. Is descr_strat the only file you changed? (If you only changed small areas of descr_strat could you copy and paste them into your reply?) Are you just changing the files within an existing campaign folder or did you make a new folder for a provincial campaign?

When you attempt to start the campaign, how far (to which screen) does it get? When it stops does it crash to desktop or go back to the previous menu?

**Caius** · 09-09-2006, 15:31

I dont have the -show_err in the shortcut, but the game doesnt crash to desktop.
I changed ALL the descr_strat file, the only file, I just added new units for make the campaign some more fun.
I click provincial campaign, i select the campaign and i select the faction, i click in the arrow for start the campaign and..turns back, and i cant play the campaign

**Makanyane** · 09-09-2006, 15:45

You have what is commonly refered to here as a KTM (Kick-back To Menu)
if you put -show_err on your shortcut it should direct you to the error.

to do this right click the desktop shortcut you start the game from, select properties, and in target box after " add a space and then -show_err
so it looks like

"X:\blah\blah\Rome - Total War\RomeTW-BI.exe" -show_err

click 'apply', then start the game from that shortcut.

The same thing will happen to you when you attempt to start game you will go back to menu, click exit on both screens to leave game and hopefully as you leave the program it will give you an error message.

If you don't understand error message, write it down and post in reply.

**Byzantine Emperor** · 09-09-2006, 16:13

You have got to let other people help sometimes Makanyane :lol:

But yeah, do what s/he said.

**Sir Dinadan** · 09-09-2006, 16:58

I have had a kick back to menu with a provincial campaign using -show err and it didn't tell me what was wrong.

**Caius** · 10-03-2006, 23:16

Ok.
I sended the descr_strat file.I dont know where the file is.needing help!

CF

**Caius** · 10-05-2006, 18:20

Ok.
The file is UTWDescr_strat.zip
Any help is gratly appreciated

Caius

**Bombasticus Maximus** · 10-05-2006, 18:43

Where is the file?

**Caius** · 10-05-2006, 22:39

Here is the file:

http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Rt...ads/RTWupload/

**Makanyane** · 10-05-2006, 23:16

Hi Caius,
descr_strat looks like you've done way, way too much too senate family tree.

If you look at normal descr_strat - all members of family in relative section share same surname (if they have one) don't think they can have different ones.... can someone else confirm??

Anyway family structure has to work like
relative Grand Dad (= faction leader - only one), wife, son/daughter 1, s/d 2, s/d 3, s/d 4(4max), end
relative son1/husbandofdaughter 1, wife/daughter1, grandson/daughter 1, gs/gd2, gs/gd3, gs/gd4, end
relative son2...etc
relative grandson 1.... etc

notice all relatives at start of lines below first must have a relationship defined in the lines above.

sons/daughters and grandsons/granddaughters have to be listed in descending order of age and their is a minimum age difference between all sons and fathers etc. possibly 16 for boys and a bit less for girls (not sure exactly what)

You seem to have added a few family trees together so have multiple leaders and heirs and people listed at start of relative lines who have no relationship to anyone in lines above them.

there may be other problems as well but you definitely need to fix this - if you can't get enough armies using possible family members, use generals (captains) instead.

Also there are other problems associated with actually trying to play senate and slave factions.......................EEEEK!!

EDIT: You've also still got romans_julii in as faction creator in descr_strat - you can't have faction you've 'removed' from descr_strat as faction creator or default faction in descr_regions either.
(most unified Rome mods actually leave Julii in instead of Senate as it avoids hardcoded problems)

Really just go back and do one thing at a time and check each works before proceding. e.g. just take one of the roman factions out, make sure you've got rid of all references to them in regions / strat so it loads. Then try fiddling with family trees etc. (if you're adding new names for a factions generals you also have to make sure they are in that factions section of descr_names.txt - not doing so is a definite no message CTD)