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    Default Re: My mini-mod is unable to start!

    Hi Caius,
    descr_strat looks like you've done way, way too much too senate family tree.

    If you look at normal descr_strat - all members of family in relative section share same surname (if they have one) don't think they can have different ones.... can someone else confirm??

    Anyway family structure has to work like
    relative Grand Dad (= faction leader - only one), wife, son/daughter 1, s/d 2, s/d 3, s/d 4(4max), end
    relative son1/husbandofdaughter 1, wife/daughter1, grandson/daughter 1, gs/gd2, gs/gd3, gs/gd4, end
    relative son2...etc
    relative grandson 1.... etc

    notice all relatives at start of lines below first must have a relationship defined in the lines above.

    sons/daughters and grandsons/granddaughters have to be listed in descending order of age and their is a minimum age difference between all sons and fathers etc. possibly 16 for boys and a bit less for girls (not sure exactly what)

    You seem to have added a few family trees together so have multiple leaders and heirs and people listed at start of relative lines who have no relationship to anyone in lines above them.

    there may be other problems as well but you definitely need to fix this - if you can't get enough armies using possible family members, use generals (captains) instead.

    Also there are other problems associated with actually trying to play senate and slave factions.......................EEEEK!!

    EDIT: You've also still got romans_julii in as faction creator in descr_strat - you can't have faction you've 'removed' from descr_strat as faction creator or default faction in descr_regions either.
    (most unified Rome mods actually leave Julii in instead of Senate as it avoids hardcoded problems)

    Really just go back and do one thing at a time and check each works before proceding. e.g. just take one of the roman factions out, make sure you've got rid of all references to them in regions / strat so it loads. Then try fiddling with family trees etc. (if you're adding new names for a factions generals you also have to make sure they are in that factions section of descr_names.txt - not doing so is a definite no message CTD)
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    Default Re: My mini-mod is unable to start!

    I have various CTD.

    One was I clicked a roman member, and CTD!
    Retried to open, but The Greek cities are destroyed, but they have settlements at start!
    And that was the last time I can opened the Campaign.

    Thanks for the help, I'm going to repleace the Roman family tree and try again

    Edit:i added all the names to descr_names.txt.
    I cant play with any faction!
    Last edited by Caius; 10-07-2006 at 00:47.




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    Finder of Little Oddities Senior Member Makanyane's Avatar
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    Re: the old CTD's
    One was I clicked a roman member, and CTD!
    Thats probably problem with his traits / ancilliaries.

    The Greek cities are destroyed, but they have settlements at start!
    They'd be destroyed if they didn't have family as well, if you thought they had one, it could be that error in it or the settlement section above is stopping family section being read by game.

    Have you actually got back to a working version, before making other changes???

    Edit:i added all the names to descr_names.txt.
    I cant play with any faction!
    I probably wasn't very clear when I mentioned adding names before - to clarify:

    When you add a new army (also spies, admirals, relatives etc. - anything with a name) to a faction in descr_strat, check that the name you are using is from that factions section of descr_names.txt (and from right category). It might be simpler for now if you could live with using names that are already in the relevant section.

    However..... if you want to use a name that is not in the factions section but is already in that file under another faction section (as in your posted strat I think you were trying to use scipii names for senate faction etc) you can copy name from the other faction and paste it into your factions section. Be careful that you put / use names in right place i.e.
    under 'characters' for male first names, 'surnames' for male surnames & 'women' for womens names (first names only). If you've been pasting chunks around make sure you haven't duplicated the section headings (characters,surnames,women) as well. Also when altering things in that file make sure you haven't misspelt or pasted in only part of a name - that would effectively mean you'd added an entirely new name. (Entirely new names have to be added to descr_names_lookup.txt and text/names.txt)
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    Default Re: My mini-mod is unable to start!

    Quote Originally Posted by Makanyane
    (Entirely new names have to be added to descr_names_lookup.txt and text/names.txt)
    I forgotted that.

    Ckeching that txt

    Caius




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