Dianetics, the basis of Scientology

[Fragony]

They think all the mental problems in the world exist because some alien lord, name Xenu I think, dumped a bunch of dissident aliens on our world, and now their souls inhabit our bodies, or something like that.

I see. These people have some room for improvement

not kidding me?

[doc_bean]

Follow my link and be amazed...

[Fragony]

Follow my link and be amazed...

Ahum that stuff is kinda I always thought scientology was the intelligent design group, and I always thought that it isn't that rediculous, now I understand why so many people mock it

Dumping Nicole Kidman for that teacuphead should have made me think....

[AntiochusIII]

Ahum that stuff is kinda I always thought scientology was the intelligent design group, and I always thought that it isn't that rediculous, now I understand why so many people mock it

Dumping Nicole Kidman for that teacuphead should have made me think....

Aww, com'on. What Tom Cruise believe, is right.



It's one hell of a stupid cult, mind you. Dune is more believable: Hail, Kwisatz Haderach!

[Conradus]

In Dune they don't even have a religion, though FH has thought more about religion than Hubbard imo

[caravel]

Scientology = Pure invention.

When I first read about the xenu issue I thought it was some kind of joke. Now I know that it's not, it does confirm what true crackpots scientologists are and what docile impressionable halfwits their followers must be to believe such tripe.

[Byzantine Prince]

It's hard to believe how some seemingly intelligent people believe in Scientology.

It's a cult of clinical psychology, psychotherapy, psychoanalysis and psychiatry, which means they have the power to control people. Kind of makes you question if you've been affected.

I think Christianity has a similar effect on people, but in an emotional way. He "died for our sins", right? But he came back! Ugh.

[Silver Rusher]

What amazes me about Scientology is that with what seems to be a completely stupid and fantastic set of beliefs, they still think they have the right to say that other religions, which would seem far more sensible than Scientology itself, are ignorant.

Even so, it remains that as Shaun said, their religion is just as likely to be true as anyone else's.

EDIT: Oh, and if you want an example of Scientology's credibility:

collectively described as space opera by L. Ron Hubbard, science fiction writer and founder of Scientology.

[Soulforged]

Even so, it remains that as Shaun said, their religion is just as likely to be true as anyone else's.

Not exactly. Not every religion proposes an actual material being wich creates, saves or condems all of us. Many use supraempirical rational constructions to portray their message, the Three Religions are a clear example of that. The history of intelegible reality can be traced back to Heraclitus and Parmenides, and their dialectic of the existence. Parmenides thought that everything that your mind could construct was real, thus intelegible reality. As the religions evolutioned they preached learning by comprehention, instead of observation, later even deduction from this intelegible reality. Anyway, just a note, I'm an atheist, so I don't believe in pure intelegible reality or pure mental constructs, to me everything has to be manifested in the tangible reality, however I'm not as naive as to think that I'm the right one and everyone else is wrong.

Now, going backto the subject, if Mr. Whatever-his-name-is, says that an actual being, tangible and real, came here and poisoned our souls (or whatever is his thesis), then he'll need to prove me that...

[Silver Rusher]

Not exactly. Not every religion proposes an actual material being wich creates, saves or condems all of us. Many use supraempirical rational constructions to portray their message, the Three Religions are a clear example of that. The history of intelegible reality can be traced back to Heraclitus and Parmenides, and their dialectic of the existence. Parmenides thought that everything that your mind could construct was real, thus intelegible reality. As the religions evolutioned they preached learning by comprehention, instead of observation, later even deduction from this intelegible reality. Anyway, just a note, I'm an atheist, so I don't believe in intelegible reality or pure mental constructs, to me everything has to be manifested in the tangible reality, however I'm not as naive as to think that I'm the right one and everyone else is wrong.

Right, but the point I was trying to make is that all religions contain areas of assumption, and until we know more about the universe, there is no reason why God's existence shouldn't be more likely than the universe being created from the droppings of thousands of squirrels. We simply do not know these things, and so anybody who claims they do know is as right/wrong as anybody else who does until the 'truth' is made clear (which I don't believe will ever happen to humans).

[Soulforged]

Right, but the point I was trying to make is that all religions contain areas of assumption, and until we know more about the universe, there is no reason why God's existence shouldn't be more likely than the universe being created from the droppings of thousands of squirrels. We simply do not know these things, and so anybody who claims they do know is as right/wrong as anybody else who does until the 'truth' is made clear (which I don't believe will ever happen to humans).

I understand your point, but it seemed like you wanted to compare all mainstream religions (I say this so I don't have to enumerate them), in their basis, to this simple bunch of crap. Sorry if I misunderstood your point.

[Idaho]

I think that Scientology is just a cult taken to corporate level. Some of the deaths that are linked to that business are very shady indeed.

It is an insult to other legitimate religions to call it a religion. Other religions need money to exist, scientology only exists to make money.

[Papewaio]

It's stamp collecting.

[Xiahou]

I think that Scientology is just a cult taken to corporate level. Some of the deaths that are linked to that business are very shady indeed.

It is an insult to other legitimate religions to call it a religion. Other religions need money to exist, scientology only exists to make money.

Agreed. Hubbard was convicted of fraud, wanted, suspected of numerous other criminal acts and died while hiding from authorities.