Adoption vs abortion

**Fragony** · 09-11-2006, 11:25

Most abortions are made to avoid difficult situations, it's just wrong. Especially when you consider that there are waiting lists of years for people that want to take care of these kids. I will just call it murder.

**Hepcat** · 09-11-2006, 11:28

But imagine if every unwanted child were put up for adoption. There would be a LOT of children and not enough parents.

**Fragony** · 09-11-2006, 11:30

Originally Posted by Hepcat

But imagine if every unwanted child were put up for adoption. There would be a LOT of children and not enough parents.

Enough parents to make the african human trafficing a flourishing market.

**doc_bean** · 09-11-2006, 11:41

Even if there aren't enough parents willing to raise those kids. Having more kids could be beneficial enough for a Western European to warrant decent investment by the state in orphanages. We're going extinct here !

I believe the average amount of children per woman is about 1.6 here, so the increase in births could increase this to 1.8, which still isn't enough to stay even, but might makes things a lot easier in the future...

**Hepcat** · 09-11-2006, 12:02

New Zealand is the same, our population gets bolstered more from immigration than birth rates. We just reached our landmark population of 4 million this year (or last year, I forget) and don't we feel special.

**macsen rufus** · 09-11-2006, 12:34

I'd like to put the boot on the other foot : why do so many people choose IVF etc instead of adoption?

**Hepcat** · 09-11-2006, 13:15

I guess so that they actually ARE related to their child. One of my science teachers holds the view that the main objective in life is to pass on your genes (he's a biologist) and in a way it sort of is.

**Xiahou** · 09-11-2006, 19:41

Originally Posted by macsen rufus

I'd like to put the boot on the other foot : why do so many people choose IVF etc instead of adoption?

Im sure part of it is that there are so few babies available for adoption.

Originally Posted by rory_20_uk

Giving birth tears a lot of structures. Probably best to not bother if you've already decided you don't want a child in any case.

Its not as those abortion is entirely risk free either.

Originally Posted by doc_bean

I mean, consider the situation where you are in your early twenties and you knock your girlfriend up. A pretty common thing to happen in the world. Now for most people they'd just think about whether or not they'd keep the baby. giving it up for adoption doesn't cross 99% of the people's mind.
Why is this ? Why is there such a bias against giving away a child for adoption whilst it is considered perfectly acceptable (for a lot of people) to have an abortion ?

I think at least part of it is simple selfishness. People have sex irresponsibly and then dont want to deal with any of the consequences afterwards and want to forget about their indescretions as soon as possible. Its much easier just to make it "go away" without having too see the results of their actions.

**Spino** · 09-11-2006, 21:28

Originally Posted by macsen rufus

I'd like to put the boot on the other foot : why do so many people choose IVF etc instead of adoption?

Because the urge to procreate and pass one's genes on into the next generation is the raison d'etre for all life on this planet. When it comes down to the nitty Darwinian gritty absolutely nothing else matters. Foregoing reproduction altogether and adopting someone else's offpspring or hindering and/or affecting the growth of one's offspring as a by-product of taking care of someone else's offspring is and always shall be a practice of a small minority.