demo availability?

[hoetje]

Hi,

Does anyone know an exact date for demo release?Since CA says the demo will appear very soon,I assume that that will be this week.Anyone know better?

[shifty157]

They havent said a thing.

[Tamur]

I am simply guessing, but by the pace of marketing and the number of trade shows in which they have tested the demo on limited audiences, this week would make sense. However, what makes sense to me rarely fits with reality

[TB666]

Nah I doubt this week.
My guess, in 2 weeks, maybe next week if we are lucky.

[Bob the Insane]

I would not expect to see it until a week or two before release...

That way you get everyone all excited but don't give them the chance pick it to pieces before the full release...

But you never know...

[King Noob the Stupid]

Did they say if the demo will be battles only or if we'll also be able to do a little campaigning (e.g. a tutorial)?

[TB666]

Well if it was a week or 2 before release then they wouldn't use words like "imminent" or "upon us"
The release date for the game is 2 months away, that's not imminent.
The other demos was released around 1 month before release but that is still far away for it to be "soon upon us".

[Mount Suribachi]

Did they say if the demo will be battles only or if we'll also be able to do a little campaigning (e.g. a tutorial)?

IIRC there is a tutorial and the battles of Agincourt and that one between the HRE, France and Spain (somebody throw me a frickin bone here).

We keep hearing "soon". The demo is done, people have played it, but CA have said they are putting the finishing touches to it before it goes on public release. I would check when the next issue of PC Gamer UK comes out. Ian Roxborough (CA PR man) used to work there and they get a lot of scoops, like demos on coverdiscs.

[Ibn Munqidh]

The Demo Includes:

-Battle Tutorial
-Battle of Agincourt (HRE/Spain-France)
-Battle of Pavia (England-France)

I hope it gets released this week or the next, IM DYING TO PLAY SOMETHING!!!

[Crusader Invasion]

I'm guessing sometime in October but it would be great if it was next week.

[King Noob the Stupid]

The Demo Includes:

-Battle Tutorial
-Battle of Agincourt (HRE/Spain-France)
-Battle of Pavia (England-France)

So there won't be campaign demo?

[TB666]

So there won't be campaign demo?

No.
RTW and BI didn't have one either so it is normal for CA to do this.

[King Noob the Stupid]

Well ok, we can still use it to test our hardware...

[TB666]

Well ok, we can still use it to test our hardware...

Which the most important thing I think for most of us

[|Heerbann|_Di3Hard]

The Demo Includes:

-Battle Tutorial
-Battle of Agincourt (HRE/Spain-France)
-Battle of Pavia (England-France)

I hope it gets released this week or the next, IM DYING TO PLAY SOMETHING!!!

I don't think so. This demo is nearly one month old. They showed the demo already on the games convention in Leipzig. I think they made a new demo. Hopefully with 8 factions on a nice stepp map. To test, tactics, performance and formations.

That would be great.

Best Regards
|Heerbann|_Di3Hard

[TB666]

I don't think so. This demo is nearly one month old. They showed the demo already on the games convention in Leipzig. I think they made a new demo.

They won't make a new demo.
If we are lucky it is the same demo but without the bugs but doubt it.
But the overall feelings from the people that played the demo is that it is very good anyway.

[Basileus]

It will get released one month before the actual game release, like all the other TW games...my bet anyways heh

[|Heerbann|_Di3Hard]

They won't make a new demo.
If we are lucky it is the same demo but without the bugs but doubt it.
But the overall feelings from the people that played the demo is that it is very good anyway.

But this demo is more a graphical demonstration than a gameplay demo. E.g. the computer enemies are too closed at the beginning. It was not possible to test different formations. And there was only a few units per side. (not 20). We can only test the performance if somebody make a mod to increase the unit numbers up to 6000-8000 men (like a 3vs3).

[TB666]

It is a gameplay demo just like all the other demos was.

[|Heerbann|_Di3Hard]

It is a gameplay demo just like all the other demos was.

Sorry but I expect from a demo to show the capabilities of the game engine. This mean at least 6000 - 8000 men on the battlefield (as usual in a normal 3vs3)! After the Rome Demo I bought the game and I was disappointed. This will not happen again.

[TB666]

Sorry but I expect from a demo to show the capabilities of the game engine. This mean at least 6000 - 8000 men on the battlefield (as usual in a normal 3vs3)! After the Rome Demo I bought the game and I got disappointed. This will not happen again.

Well if you can't handle that many troops in RTW then certainly won't handle it now either.
Demos are suppose to give you a sample of what to expect, not the whole deal.
The historical battles are a good test from gameplay and hardware performance.

[x-dANGEr]

3 on 3's take up to 8000 men on the battlefield.. What do you do when you play, pick all peasents!!

The current average for a 3 on 3 is 4000 men. (Maybe more is possible on M: TW <--- 2D, but I doubt your PC can handle up to 8000 men on RTW, rather than Medieval TWO: TW..)

[|Heerbann|_Di3Hard]

3 on 3's take up to 8000 men on the battlefield.. What do you do when you play, pick all peasents!!

Come to MTW Vi and I show you my army.

The current average for a 3 on 3 is 4000 men. (Maybe more is possible on M: TW <--- 2D, but I doubt your PC can handle up to 8000 men on RTW, rather than Medieval TWO: TW..)

6 player --> 7000 / 6 = 1166

In MTW 1 we have 16 units and an army has between 900 and 1000 soldier. In MTW 2 you have 20 slots. 950 * 20 / 16 = ca. 1200 * 6 = 7200

e.g.
Byz Army:
3 pav: 180
4 Byz inf.:400
2 varanger guard: 120
7 cav: 280
= 980 soldier.

This is MTW m8 and not Rome. I expect 6000-8000 soldiers on a new medium PC. 4000 soldier and 3vs3 means 666 ;) soldier each. Let us make the calculation backward:

Byz Army ( 20 slots):
4 pav(30): 120
6 Byz inf.(50):300
2 varanger guard (30): 60
8 cav ( 20): 160
= 640 soldier.

But how should this look like?? A cav with 20 soldier?? Or 30 men pavs?? LOL No way.

[x-dANGEr]

That's RTW mate, or what I like to call the "3D world". It is simply, like.. almost impossible to run a 8000 men battle with all graphics on max with a good FPS rate (30+) in RTW.. I didn't test any new cards, but I know that 8000 men on the battlefield with GFX set to high and on M2: TW is like a miracle to happen with the normal PC home-users..

P.S. A Cavalry unit count to 27 men in RTW. An "elite" infantry unit count either 12 men or 18 men. A normal one counts 41/40. A stacked one count 60, and the odd peasant unit counts as 80.

[|Heerbann|_Di3Hard]

That's RTW mate, or what I like to call the "3D world". It is simply, like.. almost impossible to run a 8000 men battle with all graphics on max with a good FPS rate (30+) in RTW.. I didn't test any new cards, but I know that 8000 men on the battlefield with GFX set to high and on M2: TW is like a miracle to happen with the normal PC home-users..

Yes, that's correct. I am too addicted in MTW Vi as I could accept that MTW 2 is ROME 2 Okay this will mean, that I will play MTW Vi as long as possible and our clan ( and I think also other MTW VI clans ) will leave the TW community. I don't like Rome. I dont like the unit size of Rome and I don't like small Armies with 600 men and much more. But well, thats life. We don'T need graphics. We need gameplay. If the graphics is more important than the gameplay, there must be something wrong. At the moment it is modern to have good marketing. The product can be crap, but the most important is the visual.

P.S. A Cavalry unit count to 27 men in RTW. An "elite" infantry unit count either 12 men or 18 men. A normal one counts 41/40. A stacked one count 60, and the odd peasant unit counts as 80.

[/QUOTE]

In MTW a cav has 40 men, a inf normally 60, anti cav 100 men (billmen 60). These size is optimal to play. If you have a cav with 20 men, after one mistake, the cav is dead... 40 men inf is too small for good formations. My opinion.

Sry for off topic and I will stop whining now.

Best Regards
|Heerbann|_Di3Hard

[IrishArmenian]

The Demo Includes:

-Battle Tutorial
-Battle of Agincourt (HRE/Spain-France)
-Battle of Pavia (England-France)

I hope it gets released this week or the next, IM DYING TO PLAY SOMETHING!!!

I think you swiched those. Shoodn't it be Agincourt (England-France), Pavia (HRE/Spain-France)?

[Ibn Munqidh]

I think you swiched those. Shoodn't it be Agincourt (England-France), Pavia (HRE/Spain-France)?

Yah, lol, sure, sorry, I didnt notice then

[Incongruous]

It was staed over a week ago that the demo would be released soon, and judging from all the publicity and playing it has received I can only guess it will be out in a week or two.

[BaldwinIV]

Maybe in the end of this month. I've such feelings...

[Chuffy]

P.S. A Cavalry unit count to 27 men in RTW. An "elite" infantry unit count either 12 men or 18 men. A normal one counts 41/40. A stacked one count 60, and the odd peasant unit counts as 80.

Thats only if you've got a crappy computer and you're playing with tiny unit sizes.