Scots

[Azog 150]

Does anyone have any info on the scots? Such as units, what the skins will be like and if they will be playable in campaign? If they all wear kilts ill scream.

[TB666]

Yes they will be playable.
Other then that we don't know that much about them, we have seen some screens of them.
And you can be sure that they will probably wear kilts.

[econ21]

And you can be sure that they will probably wear kilts.

TB66, I think you just want to hear Azog scream.

[TB666]

TB66, I think you just want to hear Azog scream.

No, just prepared him for the worst.

[anders]

The scots will certainly have access to feudal knights, as the feudal knight in the .coms unit prewiev is scottish.

Moreover it can be expected that they will have some sort of pikemen to represent the "long wooden pole" wielding infantry of the battle of bannockburn.

Its also very probable that they wil be set up with some kind of two-handed sword wielding infantry to depict claymores. that may not be too historicaly correct, as the claymore as far as I understand was a 1500-1700 weapon.

Apart from this it will probably be general catholic units, spearmen, archers etc.

[Guillaume le Batard]

I suspect that the Scots will have access to some sort of slightly upgraded unit at the game's start to help offset what will assumably be a challenging situation economically and militarily.

IIRC, in MTW1 (as rebels) they had "highlanders" in the early era, which actually made a bit of difference for them in battles against other early infantry types.

Just guessing they'll make an early re-appearance. What do you guys think?

Guillaume

P.S. I am not typically your "Total War Small Faction Fanatic" -- my handling of economics is way too poor, and I always grind it into the dust -- but I am strangely looking forward to playing as Scotland!

[Guillaume le Batard]

Azog,

One of the 3D units at totalwar.com is a Scottish unit, the "Scots Guard" I believe they're called (a.k.a. les "Compagnie des Gendarmes Ecossois”).

Without seeing all the units, however, no-one can say whether any units will be seen wearing kilts. Despite the reported historical inaccuracy of such dress in a medieval setting, I wouldn't be shocked to see them on a highlander unit or two .

Here's hoping they leave the kilts at home!

Guillaume

[Guillaume le Batard]

Oh wait, Azog, I'm very tired and completely wrong. The unit described above is a French unit comprised of Scots.

Sorry for the double post, I still haven't earned the right to edit my posts.

Guillaume

[Azog 150]

Bum, well it was to be expected i suppose. My media 9 thing needs to be installed again, so no unit profiles for me

Oh well, im off to bed, night all

[Sun of Chersonesos]

apparently the scots guard will be the best archers in the game

[Azog 150]

They are a french unit

[AussieGiant]

apparently the scots guard will be the best archers in the game

Where did you hear that?

[Peasant Phill]

Look at the unit description on the .com. The Scots guard is French, although, naturally Scotland should have access to.

[AussieGiant]

This is the description:

The “Compagnie des Gendarmes Ecossois”, better known as the French Scots Guard, are a great example of the term “the enemy of my enemy is my ally” since their shared enmity to England has given the Scots and the French common cause. These Scottish troops are elite heavily armoured longbowmen and form part of the French King's retinue.

Where does it say they are the best archers in the game?

There are more than likely going to be multiple elite archer units in the game.

[Orda Khan]

I still can't understand why the Scots are playable at all

........Orda

[Sun of Chersonesos]

Well to be honest i dont think that the scots will be very good in the long run, their archers are no beter than the english, and those feudal knights wont be much use for long since it doesn't utilise plate armour, its like celtic Byzantines

[Antagonist]

I'm pretty sure the Lowland Scots at least were generally equipped in much the same way as the English throughout this period. IIRC in the later Middle Ages they reformed their army to incorporate better armour (greater proliferation of mail for ordinary soldiers and plate for nobles) and adopted things like pikemen etc.

Antagonist