Marriage in exchange for territory

**Tamur** · 09-16-2006, 05:13

I was looking through the marketing blog pointed out by King Noob in this post, and found a curious statement in one of their adverts I had not seen.

Specifically, "Manage your economy, spread or squash religion, marry princesses off in exchange for territory and wage war on your enemies." The economy, religion, and war parts I've heard plenty about. However, the role of princesses is something I know little about.

Is there indeed a one-to-one relationship between the marriage of a princess and territory ownership? That is, if a princess marries into another faction, does that mean the territory owned by the lucky fellow (i.e. that he's got title to) becomes your faction's? Interesting dynamic if that's the case, I'd have much more respect for princesses

**The Blind Samurai** · 09-16-2006, 07:07

sweet iam going to make a princess and marry her off to a general of HRE

**Mount Suribachi** · 09-16-2006, 08:34

It certainly is an interesting development

Of course, a lot depends on the diplomacy AI - In RTW you can't give away territory, let alone sell it! (for money, alliance, marriage, whatever).

**Ciaran** · 09-16-2006, 10:12

Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi

It certainly is an interesting development

Of course, a lot depends on the diplomacy AI - In RTW you can't give away territory, let alone sell it! (for money, alliance, marriage, whatever).

Well, you can give away land as a gift (try more than once, for some reason, that tends to do the trick), but I do agree, the diplomatic AI needs vast improvements.

**Solon of Athens** · 09-16-2006, 10:24

Originally Posted by Ciaran

Well, you can give away land as a gift (try more than once, for some reason, that tends to do the trick), but I do agree, the diplomatic AI needs vast improvements.

Looking at the screenshots, I think they have made some great imporvements in this area...

**Ignoramus** · 09-16-2006, 09:56

Originally Posted by Supreme Shogun

sweet iam going to make a princess and marry her off to a general of HRE

In that case, you'd be giving away land, not gaining it.

**Furious Mental** · 09-16-2006, 10:01

I'm not entirely sure but I think the idea is that the general marries into your faction, in other words he becomes a vassal of your leader and therefore his land becomes yours. Sort of like bribing them.

**Soulflame** · 09-16-2006, 11:26

Originally Posted by Furious Mental

I'm not entirely sure but I think the idea is that the general marries into your faction, in other words he becomes a vassal of your leader and therefore his land becomes yours. Sort of like bribing them.

Except that titles aren't in the game, so the lands weren't his (the generals) in the first place. If titles aren't in, how is it decided which lands you'll get?

It sounds a bit weird to me, not sure how it will work out.

**Furious Mental** · 09-16-2006, 12:21

I suspect that if the general is in a city or castle and therefore governing it, you get the city or castle. Like I said, same as bribing him.

**A. Smith** · 09-16-2006, 12:21

It might work like this: princess marries, has children, and her children somehow gets the throne. since he is in your family, ta-da! the empire is yours. or it might cause a secession: the ones that follow you and the ones that follow the reall royal line.

**The Blind Samurai** · 09-16-2006, 22:44

Originally Posted by Ignoramus

In that case, you'd be giving away land, not gaining it.

no id be ganing the land

**Tamur** · 09-18-2006, 05:30

Thanks for the thoughts all. I guess we will see in the final product.

Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi

That would be wonderful, but I think given all the previous info on rebellions & civil wars by CA that its unlikely

It's all very curious. There is the info you mention on civil wars, etc, but then there is the quote from Penny in the Missions dev diary in which she states that both other factions and individuals from other factions trying to better themselves within their own faction will give missions to you.

It may not be civil war, but as far as the diplomatic AI it's the closest thing to it.

Applying that to this thread, the advert may imply that individuals within a faction do in fact have the capacity to break off from their faction and bring their land(s) with them.

Then again, the marketing folks also stated flatly (to Soulflame?) that missions would only come from the Pope and the Council of Nobles. Penny Sweetster on the other hand, who worked as a designer on missions, states in the dev diary equally definitively that missions will come from the Pope, Guilds, the Council of Nobles, other Factions, and individuals within other factions. A pure contradiction, so I'm taking Penny's word as good and the marketeers words as unreliable at this point.

But again, we'll see.

**Maizel** · 09-18-2006, 17:40

I think it's just a promotional thing. I wouldn't think too much of it if i were you guys

**Maizel** · 09-18-2006, 17:40

I think it's just a promotional thing. I wouldn't think too much of it if i were you guys

**Martok** · 09-16-2006, 08:52

Well in the original MTW you can inherit land if your king/prince is married to a princess whose faction has collapsed and/or fallen into civil war. Perhaps this feature is returning in the sequel?