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    Default Re: CA please read MP solution

    actually monks didn't give a moral penalty and they were more affective in 1.12
    i.e. original STW

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    Default Re: CA please read MP solution

    Quote Originally Posted by Nobunaga
    actually monks didn't give a moral penalty and they were more affective in 1.12
    i.e. original STW
    they did give moral penalty in SP, I can't recall if same carried for MP, it's been a while. But if we ignore that issue, here's what I have.
    monks at 5/2 4 charge while nodachi 5/-2 8 charge. if 4 charge = 1 combat then it's 8:5 ratio. monks cost 500 while nodachi cost 300, so without upgrades they are 24:25 nodachi. Almost equal cost-effectiveness.
    However this didn't take into account of battlefield upgrades. Nodachi can get as much battlefield upgrades as monks, but their lower defense meant they would suffer more moral penalty from casaulty%. By rushing with monks and not giving time for the opponents to properly carry out their charges further allowed monks to sustain unit sizes, thus after battlefield upgrades they become more powerful than nodachi. This I believe is source of the "15% unbalanced".
    In MI, monk cost were raised by 10%, making them 10% less cost effective. I don't know if 10% would of effectively conpensaded their after battle capabilities but the fact naginata cavarly with almost same combat stats, faster and only 450 in cost made monks obsolete anyway.

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