Bioshock non-gameplay discussion

[Ironside]

That video is really starting to get my hopes up.

Creepy environment? Check
Disturbing environment? Check
Creepy sounds? Check (sadly he did ramble a bit too much to hear what that splicer was mumbling about in the last scene).
Ammo being scarce? Check
Daul AP ammo ? Check
Mad AI... uh singer? Check (we'll see if he can rival SHODAN, although certainly not in the same way)

The splicers seemed nasty enough to make your fear for an encounter with them, wich is good (in this case ). Only gotten that feeling in AvP2 as a marine and SS2, although in both games that feeeling started to drop about halfway through.

We do need our trusty wrench though.

[econ21]

That video is really starting to get my hopes up.

Yes, it showed that the E3 interviews and the screenshots certainly weren't lying.

I think the game does look rather less absolutely terrifying than System Shock 2 - the splicers don't have the bowel loosening quality of the hybrids or cyber-midwives. And maybe the premise/story is less good, who knows? But I certainly recognised enough of the core elements of SS2 in it to make this my most anticipated game at the moment (sorry, M2TW).

[Ironside]

We do need our trusty wrench though.

And we got our trusty wrench

http://www.gamespot.com/events/x06/s...pslot;action;1

Seems that they weren't kidding when they said that the big daddies are strong.

[Sir Moody]

"Look Mr Bubbles Adam!"

that line alone had me hooked great video really looks like theyve recreated the SS2 atmosphere

[econ21]

"Look Mr Bubbles Adam!"

There's no way I am going to harm a little sister - I assumed from the freaky screenshots that they would be some kind of perverted cybermidwife type creature. But they sound so human, interfering with them would seem like child abuse. Especially when she crawls back into the damp sewer thing and says how cold it is. I wonder what the implications of a "pacifist" approach will be - how seriously will you be disadvantaged without their Adam?

[Spino]

There's no way I am going to harm a little sister - I assumed from the freaky screenshots that they would be some kind of perverted cybermidwife type creature. But they sound so human, interfering with them would seem like child abuse. Especially when she crawls back into the damp sewer thing and says how cold it is. I wonder what the implications of a "pacifist" approach will be - how seriously will you be disadvantaged without their Adam?

Speak for yourself. Little sisters hold the Adam and the Adams is the precious. Me waaannnts the preciousssssss...

Seriously now, just because it looks like a little girl, acts like a little girl and sounds like a little girl doesn't mean it's a little girl. I dunno, call me strange but the idea of fragging cute female mutants dressed in summer frocks and pigtails who wield huge syringes for the sole purpose of draining and consuming my precious bodily fluids so as to get at some mutagenic compound called 'Adam' doesn't sway my moral compass.

Anyway, based on the recently released trailer I love the immediate visual effect Adam has those who take it (Little Sisters excepted).

[Samurai Waki]

Theres something about RPGs, that if I'm ever given the opportunity to be absolutely evil beyond imagination, I do it. I don't know why, because I'm not an evil person by nature. KOTOR 1 and 2 were both good examples, my characters always seem to become extremely evil. And in Neverwinter Nights, my Character was so evil, I actually halted the story line mid-way, because I killed a Character I wasn't supposed to.

[Spino]

Theres something about RPGs, that if I'm ever given the opportunity to be absolutely evil beyond imagination, I do it. I don't know why, because I'm not an evil person by nature. KOTOR 1 and 2 were both good examples, my characters always seem to become extremely evil. And in Neverwinter Nights, my Character was so evil, I actually halted the story line mid-way, because I killed a Character I wasn't supposed to.

Interesting. When I play rpgs I usually opt for the most neutral position possible with a lean towards the Neutral-Good alignment (to invoke an AD&D term). I generally despise being forced to take a path which leads to the stereotypical archetype of a 'good' or 'evil' person. But what I really loathe are games that claim you can choose your own moral and ethical path but penalize you for pursuing anything but the goody-two shoes path to pink-fluffy goodness.

As in real life I prefer my fantasy worlds filled with moral shades of gray. About the only time I lean heavily towards one alignment or the other is if the payoff (read as items, reputation or cool cutscenes) is more substantial for doing so. Oddly enough this self serving pragmatism which governs my rpg playstyle still places me in Neutral-Evil territory.