What is the future of EB?

[MSB]

I was just wondering what would happen when EB is no longer a BETA, has had all CTDs fixed and is practically perfectly finished. Will you move to M2TW and redo the mod on the M2 engine or create a Medieval historically accurate mod on M2TW. Will you move to BI and mod that to create a "EB Invasion" mod or will you just "disband" the team and just keep the mod you have or perhaps even turn your efforts into a game instead of a mod?
Thankyou

[Redigo]

Two words: Boxed copies.

$20 a pop.

[MSB]

Two words: Boxed copies.

$20 a pop.

Could you explain what you mean please!?

[Dram]

yeah people would probably buy it, but its illegal to sell third party mods for copywrited games

[iberus_generalis]

duh..he meant that EB is os good, that, next Ca is gonna give them permition to sell the altered material as a standalone game, so everyone can play this Massterpiece

[Krusader]

Probably not a medieval accuracy mod.

Reason is that the core members are experts on ancient history and there is where most EB people's interest is.

EB for MTW2 has been discussed, but its a consensus within EB team that EB 1.0 for RTW 1.5 is top priority.

[Meothar]

I suppose when 1.0 is out and bugfree, the EB team members will settle back and play their own mod. After that, some members will work for other mods (maybe M2TW), some won't mod anymore etc. I doubt that at this point, they are willing to do the same kind of mod again, regarding how much time they have spent for EB.

[Dram]

duh..he meant that EB is os good, that, next Ca is gonna give them permition to sell the altered material as a standalone game, so everyone can play this Massterpiece

..............

[Sarkiss]

Probably not a medieval accuracy mod.

Reason is that the core members are experts on ancient history and there is where most EB people's interest is.

convert MTW2 to EB's timeframe. considering you already have a base in form of all the stuff EB have already accomplished (research, skins etc), so you wont need to start form scratch.
we'll gain all the latest features and benefits of improved engine a lotta of other stuff that comes with MTW2. that'd be the most outstanding mod ever.

[edyzmedieval]

I suppose when 1.0 is out and bugfree, the EB team members will settle back and play their own mod. After that, some members will work for other mods (maybe M2TW), some won't mod anymore etc. I doubt that at this point, they are willing to do the same kind of mod again, regarding how much time they have spent for EB.

Trust me, with all this bugfixing and testing and other stuff, we ve played enough EB for 10 lifetimes.

Selling EB would NOT be possible without somebody buying the Rome TW engine and donating it to EB. And the Rome TW engine is definitely extremely expensive...

[Reverend Joe]

What's the future of EB?


KOMMIE PARTY!!!

[Imperator]

maybe a lot of peaple will go to MTW 2 but I won't I've seen enough screenies to know the units are all uber gunpowerder-mega-foot knights, the map is only marginally better than in Alexander and the gameplay is based more on vaguely offensive stereotypes than historical fact. Maybe I'm nuts, but EB final will kick the stuffing out of MTW 2. It is more immersive, "prettier" (better skins, map, cities, buildings), more historical and more challanging. It's everything people want in a computer game. So while everyone runs around waiting for good MTW 2 mods, I'll be happily playing EB.


PS- that said, I'll still buy MTW 2 anyway, if only to complain about it later.

[Ypoknons]

Porting to MTW2 won't be more than just a port. EB is so complex I imagine that the team will have to rethink the mod from scratch to see what they can do with the new engine.

[MSB]

maybe a lot of peaple will go to MTW 2 but I won't I've seen enough screenies to know the units are all uber gunpowerder-mega-foot knights, the map is only marginally better than in Alexander and the gameplay is based more on vaguely offensive stereotypes than historical fact. Maybe I'm nuts, but EB final will kick the stuffing out of MTW 2. It is more immersive, "prettier" (better skins, map, cities, buildings), more historical and more challanging. It's everything people want in a computer game. So while everyone runs around waiting for good MTW 2 mods, I'll be happily playing EB.

Yes, but M2TW will have more detailed graphics and more personality possiblitities in the units (e.g. everybody's in a unit's faces are different). So mabye if EB was to do their work on the M2 engine and re skin everything and change everything to RTW timeframe they could create a better mod (graphically) than they already have. However if they move to M2 then they will get less downloaders. People buy M2TW to play in the Middle Ages not to play in the Classical Age.

[Solon of Athens]

Yes, but M2TW will have more detailed graphics and more personality possiblitities in the units (e.g. everybody's in a unit's faces are different). So mabye if EB was to do their work on the M2 engine and re skin everything and change everything to RTW timeframe they could create a better mod (graphically) than they already have. However if they move to M2 then they will get less downloaders. People buy M2TW to play in the Middle Ages not to play in the Classical Age.

I agree with that, but our Roman Era Mod for MTW2, Ortus Romani, has received a lot of support, just as much, if not more, than some of the Medieval era mods. I believe we asked if EB members wanted to join our mod, and a few have expressed a wish to help. See this thread:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=60246

So the potential for a Roman Era MTW2 mod is out there...

[Trithemius]

but I won't I've seen enough screenies to know the units are all uber gunpowerder-mega-foot knights

Eh?!

[MSB]

I agree with that, but our Roman Era Mod for MTW2, Ortus Romani, has received a lot of support, just as much, if not more, than some of the Medieval era mods. I believe we asked if EB members wanted to join our mod, and a few have expressed a wish to help.

If EB did move to the M2TW engine it would make me buy M2 because I love EB and would really love to play it on a new better engine, but if the EB team go and sign up to Ortus Romani then EB would collapse wouldn't it? Henceforth we would never get to play 0.8, never mind 1.0.

Oh and what will this "Ortus Romani" mod be like. I have decided I do not trust Realism mods to be historically perfect after playing RTR which has less historical inaccuracies than vanilla, but is still extremely ahistorical.

[Solon of Athens]

If EB did move to the M2TW engine it would make me buy M2 because I love EB and would really love to play it on a new better engine, but if the EB team go and sign up to Ortus Romani then EB would collapse wouldn't it? Henceforth we would never get to play 0.8, never mind 1.0.

EB will reach 0.8, for everyone's sanity...

Remember that MTW2 hasn't come out yet, hence anyone who has 'joined' our mod, has only done so in spirit (apart from deciding on things like the factions) until it does come out, then the modding will begin...

Oh and what will this "Ortus Romani" mod be like. I have decided I do not trust Realism mods to be historically perfect after playing RTR which has less historical inaccuracies than vanilla, but is still extremely ahistorical.

Our Mod will be a realism mod. We have lot's of researchers who are very knowlegable in this field and we will aim to make this mod as realistic and awesome as possible.

For more info go here:
Guild Thread
TWC Forum
Official Forums

Look out for a Preview soon...

[The Spartan (Returns)]

too bad there is no EB for BI.

BI is really boring and historicaly inaccurate.

[MSB]

too bad there is no EB for BI.

BI is really boring and historicaly inaccurate.

Oh come on it's not that bad. I wouldn't say that it was wonderful, but it's better than RTW vannila. After all it has less faction historical inaccuracies (in BI there is only one faction that is ahistorically unifed: the Berbers) and it has less "ninja" ahistorical units (only the Prentervores and the Druids). Oh and it makes the Barbarians a bit more interesting and also gives them a much better tech-tree that gives them a much more historical "we are not the simple filthy great unwashed" type feel to them.

[Musopticon?]

Don't forget the Hounds of Cuculhain. Fun unit though and had roots in history.

IF you want to play BI:Total Realism, try Invasio Barbarorum:Flagellum Dei. Simply the most well done and historical mod for BI era. Sure, there's not a lot of contenders, but so what? It's go hepthalites, Lakhmid arabs and a christian Armenia, I'm content. It's also dang hard, since Roman factions have standing full stack legionary armies at the start and even though legionary recruitment is severely hindered the starting armies will give factions such as Mauri, Persarmenians and Ostrogoths some real headaches. I mean, facing a full stack of foederati, auxilia parthii(roman horse archers), clibinarii and comitatenses armatus with Persian leves and some defence-oriented elites was pretty dang hard.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

im interested in Invasio Barborum.

[iberus_generalis]

personally i tried BI, and although it had better graphics and awesome features and possibilities i dumped it after 3 hours of playtime...it appeared to me that it was way too easy, and that it lacked that little something that made me go at it for hours as in RTW...and futhermore, im much more a guy of the ascension of rome, than of the fall...i find it one of the worst pages in history, bad stuff...too sad, and also revolting, to see corruption and religion take the power, and make the most powerful empire in history a rotting corpse....but if this Invasium Barbarum, makes me rethink my beliefs and interests, than bring it on!!! i'll definetly try it...downloading now...just hope this mod has some good mini mods, and that it has some new buildings, and unique buildings in certain provinces like Roma Imortalis mod...

[NeoSpartan]

Well I am going to stay with EB for a long, long time. I don't have as much time as I used to, and playing 2 games EB and MTW2 is imposible. (I already have a hard time making time to play EB)

As for BI, I decided not to spend my money on it for similar reasons.

[Atreidis]

I don't really like Middle Ages, and EB has spoiled me in matters of historical accuracy. I doubt I will buy MTW2. I will stick with EB

I think most people here agree.

[iberus_generalis]

oh i will!!! i love the middle ages....just don't like the period that goes to from the decline of rome to the start of the middle ages...but Medieval warfare is fine by me...and it doesn't has to be historically acurate..i love the comical viciousness, and the sadistic litlle details of the stereotypes of the war of that time=))))

don't think im not loyal to EB...but im also gonna give medieval a go...

[Musopticon?]

Everyone should try Invasio Barbarorum.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=113

Yes, it has unique buildings.

[iberus_generalis]

this shoulb be the future of EB....


a revolutionary new screen softglow shader, so that we could play EB and Rome like in the pic....

[MSB]

What do you mean?

[Musopticon?]

EB's future should be...a (incompatible language - moderator)(Noes!!1 -muserator) load of bloom?

Hahhahhaa!